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I can hear it now from those minions from the AC..."What does Holtz know! He has never coached a big time FB program!"

And Muss provides a "stable situation" within and for the FB program? I get messgae boards are "bad" and Muss is "good" in your eyes and you are able to give those opinions here...along with everyone else and their opinions.

If that is true, it's basically the "throw it on the wall and see what sticks" philosophy. Goodness...

Not disagreeing with you, but what is this program's signature win since going D1 under Muss? Beating #16 Cal Poly a few years back??? Not overly impressive to say the least.

I really appreciate you accepting a whole bunch of fresh sweet corn and my prized possession.... KISS Alive II CD...I sent you via UPS as payment. You're the best!!!

This just in...5dimes has UND as only a 2 point favorite vs. BYE this week. How times have changed...

St Cloud. Friday night. Were a totally different squad Saturday even though they skated to a tie. Outplayed SCSU. Hak doesn't sugar coat things. His teams very rarely follow a poor game with another one.

Rooted in reality Muss is not... he might not be Brewster or Bohl but he makes you believe. Remember right after the Griz game..."we have the potential to be a pretty good FB team". Pour me another glass Muss, pour me another glass!!

When are the unicorns, fluffy bunnies and rainbows showing up in your world?

IF there had been any prior glimpses of hope in the Muss era, most of this talk wouldn't be going on but when you are well under .500 vs. all FCS teams, have zero wins vs. FBS or for that matter vs. playoff FCS team, you lose to Sioux Falls, and you consistently get thumped by the upper crust of the BS...all while your "rival" to the south is piling up NCs...someone has to be held accountable not allowed to have more rope!

Far from an expert but not a clueless apologist either.

Are you serious??? I don't need a "study" as an excuse for Muss at this point. The "study" I'll use is Muss's 6 years of coaching which at best could be defined as marginal for a FCS coach.

No doubt. This is only the 4th non-FBS site ever picked by Gameday. Win a couple FCS nattys and they all think they are 'Bama...oh wait that has already been hashed out. Basically to all the AC fans complaining...shut up! You should be grateful!

With the criminal history that surrounds that FB program, it wouldn't surprise me!!

Well said.

For those that haven't meet you personally face to face, you might want to let them know you don't have much up top!

I always love that one. MSU played last week coming off the devastation that their QB is out for a while and playing a team they knew they would beat. Was a perfect storm for them not to play well. Their back-up QB is no Bradley! This will be closer than the Griz game but still don't see a win coming in.

I would hope Idaho St. is a "should beat" team...after that I'm with you.

Their back-up QB got rave reviews after throwing for 300+ last weekend. "Vulnerable" is a big stretch.

No doubt!!

During the season...I agree. Immediately after season...will be disappointed if that doesn't happen especially with the way things could potentially play out. To me 6-5. which I think is best case scerario, with this schedule of home games isn't good enough.

If you wind up being short...post how much and we'll take care of it. Too much leg work and effort on your end not to at least get reimbursed in full for the order itself.

Poor decision making and financial planning...Fire MafiaMan!!!

Just watched Bohl's pressed about Gameday coming on local TV news. Just can't stress enough how differently he carries himself in front of the media compared to Muss. Night and day...kind of like the 2 programs.

This...^^^^^^! Equate that ineptitude to any other profession that's performance bassd and "he gone"!