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I didn't say younger was better, I was merely asking a question based on looking through the lens of a mid-teen deciding where to play hockey. Carle may be young to us, but he's still twice as old as the kids being recruited. With that said, he's still significantly younger than Brad and may resonate more with someone who's 16-17 years old. Jerry was old as dirt, yet could still recruit since he was basically the pope of college hockey in the northeast. All eyes were on BC at the time. Who's looking at North Dakota these days?

Of course it is, but we need a more reasonable gauge to measure off of since titles are so rare and hard to come by (unless you're Duluth or Denver recently). I don't blame Hakstol for not winning one as he routinely put his teams in positions to win the natty. Despite not winning a title, the team still felt like it was in a good place and the program was at a peak when looking at everything other than the lack of a title. North Dakota was still the "talk of the town" on a national level along with BC's run at the time. If you made Frozen Fours a "best of" series, we'd probably have multiple under Hak. Sometimes we were outplayed, sometimes we didn't get the bounces, sometimes the other team was just better. But, Berry's title isn't a recent memory anymore. It's fading farther and farther into the distance. The program has been one step forward two steps back with Berry since he took over. Next year may be one step forward again, but is the following season two more steps back? At what point do you stop the train and accept the program is in a worse place than when he started and isn't looking any brighter going forward? If you were a blue chip recruit, do you go play for sweaty Brad Berry whose team is on the slide and players tend to underperform, or go to a place like Denver with a young, exciting coach and his own much more recent title; or Scott Sandelin who has his own incredible run of success lately?

What's more exciting to the fanbase...Frozen Fours or Conference Championships? HAKSTOL (11 seasons): 7 Frozen Fours (63.6%) --- 3 Reg. Season Conference Championships (27.2%) --- 4 Conference Tournament Championships (36.4%) BERRY (8th season): 1 Frozen Four (12.5%) --- 4 Reg. Season Conference Championships (50.0%) --- 1 Conference Tournament Championship (currently 7 tries, 14.3%) Hakstol clearly put more precedent on being good late in the year and built toward that. He worked the guys hard, maybe to their detriment in the first half of the season, but as the team built stamina and the workload was adjusted, Hak's teams came to play in the second half. How he never won a title is beyond me, but again, in one-and-done, anything can happen. Berry seems to strive for consistency, start-to-finish, but doesn't build towards that post-season run. Sandy and Carle both seem committed towards post-season play...you can hear it in their talking points. The 2019-20 UND team was very good, but nowhere near 2016 good...and the 2016 team almost didn't even make the title game. To say there was any guarantee of that team was winning multiple NCAA games, much less another title is a stretch. Only two of those athletes are still on an NHL roster as I write this, Pinto and Cole Smith...then compare to the NHL talent on the 2016 team. The 2019-20 team was one of the few under Berry that played above their talent level.

I'm not saying it's unrealistic to accomplish (especially for UND), I said it's unrealistic to expect it....like, expecting Berry's tenure to hinge upon winning two titles over five year spans for the rest of his career. The problem is we can't even win a regional anymore much less an entire NCAA tournament. Heck, unless a miracle happens in postseason NCHC play, we're going to miss our third tournament of our last six. A 50% participation rate.

Brad has been given a lot of leeway thanks to that title. Winning NCHC titles is a good feat, but isn't what we play for. It's also unrealistic to expect National Championships regularly as there is too much puck luck in a one-and-done format. Bad teams don't typically luck their way to a title, but great teams are often eliminated prematurely thanks to a bad bounce or two...as us UND fans are very well aware. However, Frozen Four appearances shouldn't be rare for a team like UND. I don't think it's unreasonable to start applying some public pressure considering where our program is at. There are a number of different factors that play into good and bad seasons, but they all mainly point back to the head coach, especially at a program with small coaching staffs like NCAA hockey. This isn't Brad's first bad year. An off season among many good or great seasons isn't usually something to stress over, but NCAA wins are what excite the fanbase. NCHC titles don't. Just look at the crowds. People can blame covid, or blame start times, or blame whatever, but most sports, pro or otherwise, are back to pre-covid normalcy. The Ralph is not. It's not empty, but it's not hard to find seats and it's fairly obvious the downward trend in attendance is starting to gain steam. Is the program heading in the right direction? I'm not sure there's anything to say that it is. Just ask yourself this question? What season is the anomaly?

Doesn't seem like that nice of a guy to me, it's just what all the Mama Gaber fangirls say on FB.

But he's a nice guy.

You mean:

I hope mAmA gAbEr doesn't see this!

Sounds good to me! Sadly, it looks like we're trending towards seeing our team have regular appearances in it if it happens.

But what would be more fitting on a NOGOOD jersey than the Hawks?

The difference is you knew Hak's teams would be there in the end. They never missed the playoffs and made more Frozen Fours than they didn't under him. Slow starts were frustrating, but you knew they had the talent and coaching to turn it around. We are so badly outcoached and now definitely out-talented that there is no hope for massive turnarounds with this team. We have one playoff win since the championship 7 seasons ago. We have been trending in a bad direction for a long time. UND and its fans should not settle for mediocrity.

It's been many years since I knew a few of their recipes by heart, but I'm pretty sure it's just equal parts buttermilk and generic (like Sysco brand) salad dressing with a lot of coarse ground black pepper to taste. The red sauce is equally as simple, but can't recall exactly. DM me that Cay wing recipe unless it's the one on Reddit which I've found. If anyone has a Cay BBQ sauce recipe, that'd be even better.

This is a very bad trend, and these trends start becoming very difficult to change this far into a tenure. The national championship was seven(!) seasons ago already and the team has won only one NCAA game since then, against a very poor AIC team. This call for Berry's head isn't out of nowhere, it's a realization that a program of our stature is not meeting expectations, and hasn't for the majority of the seasons since the national championship run.

The program, Hak > Berry, is starting to feel a lot like Woog > Lucia. The sooner we realize that Berry is a really good guy, but a mediocre coach, the sooner we can get back to championship ways.

I'd love to move on from Chelsea Dagger, but I also can't offer any better suggestions.

What a fucking joke. We have REA. We have the best training facilities. We have decades of tradition and NHL talent to recruit off of. We host the best games in the country. ....and YET...we resort to filling out our roster with second-rate transfer portal kids because we can't recruit. We are out-coached every game. We are fucking NORTH DAKOTA and should be forced to play ASU 3x5 to keep the win to single digits. What a joke.

No, but last time I subbed to B1G+ it was a nightmare to unsub. It's been a few years so maybe it's better now. Not only that, I have to sub as a Gopher fan and monetarily support their program, which is also distasteful and unethical in its own right. So, I'll ask again... Any heroes streaming tonight?

Any heroes streaming tonight?

Could? She did...at least I voted for her. Scoring machine....no chance at a Richter though, she turns away nothing.

What culture is that? 3 sog in the first period of the biggest game of the season against a mediocre Notre Dame team? 24 shots on goal total with extra time? Basically zero display of skill at any point in the game? The idea of recruiting a team of nail guns who will staple you to the boards all game while cycling the puck endlessly until you turn it over...then sometimes getting an outside shot while the opposing defense just packs it in because you have no skill isn't going to cut it in NCAA hockey anymore. Our best scoring chance was a penalty shot and our best player couldn't even put in on net while doing absolutely nothing skill-wise to try and beat the goalie. But hey, we have "culture"...it's won so many other titles for us. It definitely wasn't because our 2016 title team was full of NHLers that Hak recruited.

I think Berry is quite fortunate that he nabbed that title so early in his tenure. Take away that year, and UND is on quite a horrid looking path compared to the accomplishments of his predecessors. With the standards UND should have for its program, and considering the funding, facilities, and history that our team entails, we should not look so repeatedly lackluster at tourney time.