BisonMav

Not a big deal, but Brown went to Richfield HS.

I'm Sorry.

Good list, congrats to UND.

Unless you belong to the NCC with 12 conference games and 15 OOC games. I understand your point and it is a good point, just couldn't resist making another lame response.

Didn't know hockey had a RPI rating, sorry or giving a lame comeback on your messageboard.

RPI also means something different to UND fans than NDSU fans. *RPI Hockey team vs RPI basketball ratings

Sorry, I am not going to admit McFeely getting something right. Chaminade was the tournament host, one of the first games of the season NDSU was playing on the road, mid-season. Big difference between Virginia playing in Hawaii and Wisconsin playing in the Kohl Center. Many people predicted the Bison to have less than 10 wins this year, now they are at 12 and counting.

There were many here at work today that were happy for us. In St Paul anyway.

I don't think it's an exact quote in the exact context, if that's exactly what you are saying.

Dewey beat Truman too.

Do you have a link with the Gopher offer and NDSU declining? From what I have heard, the Gophers have not officially offered the 2006 game, so NDSU could not have declined?

Thanks for the kind words guys.

This was also in the Argus Leader UND move might exclude SDSU from conference by Chris Solari Should UND decide to move into DI, a scary question hangs over SDSU's head. What happens if a conference-say the Big Sky-deems the UND-NDSU pairing worthy of admission and excludes SDSU? It's a plausible scenario. In late 2004 the Fargo Forum uncovered a letter exchange between Kupchella and BSC commissioner Fullerton, who initiated the correspondence. This came after the league presidents told SDSU/NDSU to look elsewhere for a conference in early 2003 and before the BSC added UNC and turned doen the Rabbits/Bison 2nd overture on 12/13/2004. Why would a UND-NDSU combination seem more attractive? Foremost, their budgets are already at the level of most BSC schools. According to the U.S. Department of Education's Office of Postsecondary Education, the Bison's athletic budget for the 2004-05 school year was about $7.7 million. The Sioux's budget was morethan $10 million, which includes spending for it's DI hockey program. SDSU spent more than $6.5 million on athletics a year ago. Second, there is less distiance for BSC schools to go between Fargo and Grand Forks(80 miles) than between Brookings and Fargon(190 miles). Travel has been cited by the BSC presidents as a primary reason for not adding SDSU and NDSU. The Bison and Sioux also have a heated rivalry that SDSU and NDSU don't possess-as well as historically strong DII football programs with national championships at that level. In is favor, SDSU already is a DI provisonary school nearing the midway point of its 5 year transition. Like NDSU, the Rabbits will be eligible for NCAA postseason competition in the 2008-09 school year. Fullerton said in December 2004 that UND still being a DII school that had not applied for DI status was a major issue. Under DI bylaws, UND would have to notify the NCAA by 12/1/2006 if it intends to make the 2006-07 school year its exploratory year. If that were to happen, the Sioux would not become full DI school eligible for postseason tournaments until 2011-12, 3 years after SDSU and NDSU.

Will UND also pay the fine for leaving the prior to the 18 month timeframe the NCC has added since NDSU and SDSU left the conference? UND would have to announce by the end of March to leave the NCC without a fine.

I think they both get attention! 25 Most Defining Moments in NCAA History * North Dakota State wins a fourth straight Division II Women

I would assume they would be close on the number of football vs hockey games on TV. Every Saturday during the season I had a choice of 3-4 I-AA football games to watch. I probably saw 30 different teams play. I assume hockey would be similar.

It is fair to bring up the past. If some one burns me in a business transaction, I will think twice about entering into a business agreement with that person again. You can call it spite, maybe NDSU is just afraid of getting burned again. I doubt they are afraid of winning/losing. Along the lines of the topic, I think UND would be very competitive right away. Once the Scholarships got up to the max 63 the team will be right up there.

I am talking about the original contract that was rejected in 2004

If the NDSU administration is afraid, why did they offer a 4 year home-and-home contract that was rejected by UND after several months of hedging. It's not spite by NDSU, just smart business practice.

Thanks PCM, LMFAO!

It's all perspective, IMO most UND people would have UND winning most matchups, and the NDSU people would have NDSU winning the matchups.

I'll agree that DII to I-AA isn't as big of a jump as I-AA to I-A. The only conference loss Texas St had was to Nichols St, the same Nichols St that lost to NDSU.

Texas St lost in the Semi-finals to N Iowa who beat UMD 49-14. UMD was an elite NCC team and the NCC is an elite DII conference. Score comparision really does not mean much, wins and losses is what counts.

There will be more Alumni that become involved in UND athletics because of the DI move. The money will be a factor though as you have stated. There are a few Sioux jackets and sweatshirts in the crowd at Bison football games.