Matt

Bubba is following the ac formula of running game and defense to be successful, I would suggest Faison follow their scheduling formula as well. Lessons learned.

I am not willing to call for Faison's job over this. The before/after picture of what was going on in the athletic department prior to his arrival here speaks for itself. That being said, for Faison to accept a two road game deal in Fargo would make my blood boil to a point that it becomes too difficult to put into words. A two road game FCS deal. Not even a two for one at home? Nobody offers that. Nobody accepts that. In the NFL they talk about respecting the shield. Well goddammit, it is about time someone started respecting the Kelly Green and White (if we can no longer do so for the old logo). You do not devalue your program by agreeing to such unprecedentedly lopsided terms. Someone earlier referred to "whoring" out the program, and making the UND program their "bitch", and that's exactly what it is. It would be nothing more than a walk of shame down I-94 for those two games and then staring at a phone that ain't ringing. And then you know what happens? Every other program believes they could ask the same thing from you because you know what? You did it once...you'll do it again. Now other programs will approach their negotiations differently from the start and expect they will be able to low ball you because you are the whore that goes on the road for two games with no return. I'm not getting into a discussion with the ac faithful about this offer, as it merits none. It's a sham. A joke. I don't give a s**t about the legitimacy of the offers/counteroffers that have been made until now. This "offer" changes the game because it sends the clearest possible signal that your negotiating partner believes you to be a piece of s**t that deserves no better offer, and is treating you as such. End rant.

Market value is whatever someone is willing to pay. I wasn't taking a shot at bubba. My original point was that it wasn't expensive to get Bubba here. My second point was the fact Bubba was paid comparatively more than Muss didn't necessarily make Bubba expensive. The athletic department is simply getting closer to market scale.

Dyslexia kicked in between the SDSU/UNI games. UNI is the road game.

I'm not sure I've seen a situation like this before. One team will grant home and homes to teams all over the country, but just can't seem to get it done with the one team that is begging for the game 80 miles away.

You'll get no argument from me on that. But that doesn't reflect Bubba's market value.

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A good argument could be made for either one of them. It could be short lived at the top for both of them if they lose their FBS games because SELA will be 2-0 going into their Sept 13th game at Tulane. But, if the ac goes out and beats ISU, they will likely have a stranglehold on the poll until they head to Brookings in November. I don't see EWU winning in Seattle on Sept 6th.

Media Poll http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/writers/infcshuddle/archive/haley_8_08_2014.htm The Sports Network FCS Top 25 College Football Poll Team (First-place votes) 2013 Record Points Previous Rank 1. Eastern Washington Eagles (82) 12-3 3589 3 2. North Dakota State Bison (62) 15-0 3540 1 3. Southeastern Louisiana Lions (2) 11-3 3300 6 4. New Hampshire Wildcats (1) 10-5 3090 5 5. Montana Grizzlies 10-3 2817 8 6. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 11-4 2634 10 7. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 12-3 2461 7 8. McNeese State Cowboys 10-3 2277 11 9. Northern Iowa Panthers 7-5 2197 NR 10. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 9-5 2154 13 11. Fordham Rams 12-2 2139 9 12. Villanova Wildcats 6-5 2072 NR 13. Towson Tigers 13-3 1999 2 14. Chattanooga Mocs 8-4 1647 23 15. Tennessee State Tigers 10-4 1448 17 16. Eastern Illinois Panthers 12-2 1375 4 17. Sam Houston State Bearkats 9-5 1345 14 18. Montana State Bobcats 7-5 1170 20 19. William & Mary Tribe 7-5 1151 NR 20. Richmond Spiders 6-6 963 NR 21. Furman Paladins 8-6 802 22 22. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 10-3 475 16 23. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 9-3 429 15 24. Youngstown State Penguins 8-4 405 18 25. Maine Black Bears 10-3 330 12 Others receiving votes: Southern Illinois 305, Liberty 223, South Carolina State 219, Delaware 213, Wofford 186, James Madison 180, Samford 142, Cal Poly 112, Southern Utah 100, Princeton 81, Charleston Southern 53, Harvard 43, Central Arkansas 36, Alcorn State 34, Lehigh 25, Gardner-Webb 22, Sacred Heart 14, Lafayette 13, Southern 12, North Carolina A&T 7, Northwestern State 6, Illinois State 6, Alabama State 6, Western Illinois 5, Missouri State 5, Penn 5, Sacramento State 4, Eastern Kentucky 2, Stony Brook 2, Prairie View A&M 2, San Diego 1, Indiana State 1, Duquesne 1

Bubba isn't exactly expensive.

I didn't see his name in the offerees or the players of interest in the wiki. Is he a walkon?

good info, thanks

I think the quality correlation lies more in the question of whether or not the early offers/verbals are going to those recruits you have ranked the highest on your board. Or put more simply, are UNDs (and everyone else's) early offers going to the guys they want the most?

Someone with more inside recruiting information shed some light on early commits. One school of thought says the early commits are a good sign as early offers go to those recruits highest on your wish list, so those verbals are the guys you've targeted with highest value. Some say early commits are risky as there's so much time to decommit if/when other schools come on later. Some say it doesn't matter. I'm just wondering if I should make anything of the comparatively low number of verbals I'm seeing so far, or if one verbal at this point is actually pretty standard from year to year and the ac has an unusually high number this year.

FCS Preseason Coaches Poll http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/coaches Rankings Last Updated - August 4, 2014 Coaches RANK SCHOOL RECORD POINTS PREV 1 North Dakota State (18) 15-0 636 1 2 Eastern Washington (6) 12-3 615 3 3 Southeastern Louisiana (1) 11-3 542 6 4 New Hampshire 10-5 510 5 5 Montana 10-3 505 8 6 Coastal Carolina 12-3 447 7 7 Towson (1) 13-3 438 2 8 Jacksonville State 12-2 425 12 9 McNeese State 10-3 424 9 10 South Dakota State 9-5 332 14 11 Eastern Illinois 12-2 314 4 12 Fordham 12-2 305 10 13 Villanova 6-5 287 NR 14 Sam Houston State 9-5 277 13 15 Northern Iowa 7-5 263 NR 16 Chattanooga 8-4 238 25 17 Tennessee State 10-4 237 17 18 Furman 8-6 188 21 19 Montana State 7-5 170 20 20 Maine 10-3 169 11 21 Youngstown State 8-4 162 19 22 William & Mary 7-5 159 NR 23 Bethune-Cookman 10-3 136 16 24 Richmond 6-6 118 NR 25 Northern Arizona 9-3 116 15 Others receiving votes: Samford 95, Southern Illinois 59, Harvard 42, Charleston Southern 39, James Madison 30, Princeton 24, Southern Utah 20, Alcorn State 16, Liberty 16, Delaware 15, South Carolina State 15, Cal Poly 14, Missouri State 12, Sacred Heart 10, Wofford 8, Central Arkansas 7, Alabama State 6, Lehigh 6, Eastern Kentucky 4, Holy Cross 1, Illinois State 1, Jacksonville 1

Here's a crazy thought: green jersey, green helmet, white pants, Adidas logo on the shoulder. What a concept.

Mark it down: ISU wins in a close game at home because the ac can't establish the run, and gives up sacks/hurries. Despite talented RBs there are too many losses to the OL through graduation and now injury, and the OL hasn't had enough time to gel yet.

this is also why the game must be played on the field. Until UND can play the ac and prove otherwise, the perception remains these programs are still at different levels.

Didn't we learn from the UND situation that more media scrutiny for position openings is not particularly beneficial to those trying to fill the position?

Generally speaking, with transfers physical ability and athleticism is rarely a problem. As LetsGoSioux alludes to, if there's a problem it is with attitude, work ethic, and ability to pick up a new system. Let's hope it is a smooth road for them and they make the team better.

No. If you've attended the MN State HS Hockey Tournament you would understand why.

Odd that the NDHSAA bothered to use their revenue numbers, as it is a "simple fact".

Tournament games in an empty arena is a letdown, regardless of arena quality or city population.

It may also take a couple of recruiting classes to flush out all those kids that were home watching gameday from Fargo. As time goes by that picture won't be as vivid.

I'll post this question here since it relates to the Alerus and football. Can't say I blame them with such a difference in revenue, but any thoughts as to why the revenue at the Al is so comparatively poor? Simply a function of walk up traffic due to market size? http://www.inforum.com/content/dakota-bowl-stick-fargodome-near-future