Gothmog

That's just silly. SDSU has occasionally beaten NDSU over the last few years because they've been committed to doing what is necessary to build and maintain a solid program, not vice versa. The quality program comes first, then the wins. Beating NDSU, or any other team, is not magic. You gotta do the hard work first. Otherwise, you're just hoping that pure luck will jumpstart your program. That's not likely to ever happen.

Well. SDSU has beaten the Bison multiple times in the regular season, what good has it done them? Playoff wins and Championships are all that matters. Beating a rival in the regular season is just one win in a long season. No more no less.

Kinda like the Chicago Blackhawks logo UND used for years. Not to mention the Notre Dame interlocking ND.

Do you really know what the rules for moving up to the "FBS" would be after a P5 split? Would you, for instance, admit that it's possible that your scheme might be unnecessary after a split, or that the benefits from membership in the "FBS" you're suggesting would come to UND, and the others, might be reduced after such a split?

What was there to retract? Klieman's opinion expressed in that story may or may not turn out to have been correct. In any case, UNA's losing one game, albeit to a DII school, doesn't change anything, and certainly does not require a retraction three weeks after the original story.

Look at the date of the story. It's 3 weeks before UNA lost to West Florida.

Read the article again. It's Klieman who says that he wishes more quality schools like UNA would move up, not Kolpack. Are you suggesting that Klieman doesn't know &*** about FCS football? In any case, neither of them says anything at all about a general lack of schools, such as those you mention, moving up. This article is about the quality of UNA's football program and its likely future success in FCS. It has nothing to do with Merrimack, LIU, or Central Washington.

What are you talking about? McFeely's article is about Elon's history of success, or lack of it, on the football field. He doesn't say a thing about Elon's academic standing in North Carolina, or its reasons for moving to FCS twenty years ago. All McFeely is saying is that Elon hasn't been particularly successful in D1 FCS football since moving up, and that their win over JMU is a breakthrough for them. Do you dispute that?

Or they could have planned ahead so there was money available.

And why wasn't there money in the budget? Yet another screw up.

Stiegelmeier has been at SDSU since well before the move. Coaching may partly explain UND's fall, but it does not explain SDSU's rise. BTW - wouldn't hiring bad coaches just be one of UND's many DI screw ups?

True, but would you say that UND made the right choice when it decided to not move up with NDSU?

C'mon , do you really doubt that, despite having less success than NDSU in football, SDSU considers its move to DI a resounding success? Can you think of any reason why UND would have been expected to be less successful in FCS football than SDSU apart from the timing and circumstances of the two schools decisions to move to DI?

Sometimes the "responsible" choice is the wrong choice. That was the case for UND back then. If RT hadn't been both timid and arrogant at the same time, things might be different for the program now. UND's handling, first of NDSU's DI move, and then of its own, was indeed a series of screw-ups.

Pure speculation, we have no way of knowing what would have happened had UND moved to I-AA before NDSU.

Perhaps, but we'll never know will we? On the other hand, there's no doubt about who ended the rivalry game in the first place.

This thread is about the Nickel Trophy. If the Nickel is is retired and stays retired, UND will be 100% at fault. NDSU had nothing to do with UND's nickname or its deal with the NCAA.

I would think UND would not want to open that can of worms. My suggestion is that the real nickel be on display in Bismarck and that the new traveling trophy be "The Wooden Nickel" with appropriate imagery on each side.

As usual, you're completely missing the point. The point most posters make in this thread is not that UND, or NDSU, should not consider moving to FBS but that your ideas about how and when UND will move to FBS are very unlikely and that you've shown no real evidence to support those ideas. The bottom line is that you've been wrong so many times no one takes you seriously anymore.

Sure, if those patterns are real. Seeing patterns that don't really exist (apophenia) and acting on them can be a serious problem. Apophenia is thought to be the main reason for gambling, conspiracy theories, and other delusional and dysfunctional behaviors.

In my experience, people who claim to make have made huge returns in the stock market, like SV, are usually either: a) unsophisticated ,but lucky, fools or b) lying.

Seeing patterns that aren't really there is hardly a good trait of an investor. However, if you've really done anywhere near as well as you claim in the market (and your record on unsubstantiated claims isn't good), it's likely because you've taken a great deal more risk than what you thought at the time. Some people make money in Las Vegas too, but that doesn't necessarily make them good gamblers.

Defintition of Apophenia : the tendency to perceive a connection or meaningful pattern between unrelated or random things (such as objects or ideas) What psychologists call apophenia—the human tendency to see connections and patterns that are not really there—gives rise to conspiracy theories. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apophenia

If you really believe in your predictions, why don't you just be quiet and let them happen? If you're right, there will more than enough time for you to crow about your superior insight after Septemeber 1st (or whatever your current deadline may be). If you're wrong you're just setting yourself up for even more ridicule. Whether you're right or wrong, all you have gotten for the endless hours you must have spent researching and writing about this topic is a reputation as a crackpot.

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