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I like it

I don't mind abstract, if it's good

based on what we know of each finalist, this was my preferred option too, but I also appreciated Summit coming by and letting us at least talk smart. I sure hope SME can pull it off. I see the story references a possible opportunity for the public to give their opinions. Will be curious how that takes shape.

Totally agree with this. I really like 77iceman's

ooooh, ugly. I get the idea though> Way too busy

I'd agree with you

By no means do I have a clean mouth at a hockey game but I do try to know who's around me and if there are kids in the vicinity I try to at least clean up. I think my main point is that a crowd doesn't require profanity to be intimidating. I'm not going to crumb too much on the student section because a big part of the game day experience is due to their energy. So I don't want to stifle that. I'd just hope people realize that profanity itself isn't intimidating, so there's little point to it.

Oh, we must not have been in the same section but I'm sure you are correct and it could have happened. I'll wager it could have been just as intimidating without the "sxxt" and some of the rest. But that's just me.

Right on. Back in the 80's we chanted "who's he, he sucks" but never took it further and I still don't see the point. In fact, it's less rhythmic so in my mind it's not even as good from a chant standpoint. But I suppose I have my old man pants on now.

Adam from Summit Athletics, thanks for coming here and soliciting feedback. I'll give my 2 cents though I'm not sure any of what I have to say is new or unique. Others have already responded with many of the same points. 1. As you can probably see, many UND fans think the Fighting Hawks nickname isn't a bad nickname in isolation, but being there are dozens of variations on the "Hawk" theme, in the end it's not a very unique nickname. For a fan base fiercely proud of the what was arguably considered one of the best nicknames, and best logos in sports, it's very difficult to just be driving another "color" Chevy Impala. Therefore, we really NEED a logo that will be unique and identiable. Something that will inspire pride so that fans want to wear apparel with that image. Therefore, please stay away from the cartoonish caricatures, or the bland images so common with "hawk" related nicknames. we need something different, and IMO that means something that may be more impressionistic than realistic. Take the Iowa Hawkeye logo, for example. Or this one, above, by 77iceman. It's unique, simple, and immediately recognizable as the University of North Dakota's. of course I'm not suggesting copying 77iceman, but he provides an excellent example of the type of image I hope we end up with. What I'd like to avoid is: The first logo and the 3rd logo pasted above are from 2 different colleges. The last thing we need is a logo that's difficult to differentiate from anyone elses. 2. As someone else said, we don't need to intimidate with the logo. get rid of the "angry" logo. There's no good way to evoke those emotions in a logo without looking like a cartoon. We want strength, dignity and confidence, not anger. 3. IMO, the best logos are simple images that are easily recognizable, yet representative of their nickname, regardless of size. Think of the Minnesota Vikings, Dallas Cowboys, Detroit Lions, St. Louis Rams, etc. Please, just don't give us a variation on an overused image.

Hmmm, with just a little bit of work one could definitely make a transition to a hawk image that would be reminiscent of the old geometric logo: I totally get the need to avoid making he new hawk logo look like it has Native American imagery. I also get some people's desire to have some sort of reference to UND's nickname/logo history. So, why not reference the old geometric logo? I think a skilled artist (not me) could easily work in elements that would hearken to the past yet stay within the boundaries of what would be acceptable to the NCAA.

Your stuff is much better than the stuff from, at least, Phoenix. They make some nice images but nothing out of the box. Just cartoony looking stuff.

paging through Phoenix's college branding it looks like we'll get the normal, blaise', animal image related to "fighting hawks". Nothing terribly innovative or imaginative. Just a nice bird image. bleh SME's stuff looks better to me It's hard to tell how much collegiate logo development Summit has done but nothing on their site looks all that exciting.

Not bad at all

OMG, was that bad. Geez. Others have already mentioned it and I noticed it too, as little hockey as I know. I didn't see the first period, but 2nd period was all about just trying to dump the puck out of the defensive zone. Kept going to CC players in the neutral zone who would re-enter the UND zone, rinse and repeat. Seemed like very little flow...no wonder CC was generating chances and UND wasn't. It was ugly to watch.

I get that, and that's probably my first gut reaction as well. I'm just trying to look at this from the perspective the coaches, who by all accounts are smart hockey guys and have more riding on wins and losses than me. Long story short my guess is Tomek hasn't shown enough in practice to earn playing time beyond the other two guys, who have been playing well (for the most part)

I see your point, but did he play like a walk-on goalie in the first half of the year?

Well, you've got two other goalies who have both performed very well in the first half of the season, even excellent. So Tomek is going to have to earn his way on to the ice, IMO

Not sure if you heard but right before that Brandt said UND wasn't "farting around with the puck". There was an immediate long silence, and then they couldn't stop giggling and shortly they went to commercial :-)

JEALOUS!

If Schmaltz is also out it does suck from a conference title perspective but assuming these guys can all heal up for the end of the year run this could have a silver lining. Guys have an opportunity to learn how to win without all the big stars in the lineup. If they can be successful, that could make a better team later in the year

not a bad perspective

This is way too busy but something nice and simple, maybe a touch abstract could be very cool. I wish I was an artist or had some sweet skills to illustrate my point

IMO it's quite a bit better. That's how crappy their stuff is

Yeah, we had a tough start to the year and I thought maybe we'd gotten that out of the way, and now all of this. Well, if they aren't the kind to take too long to recover from, and they don't become nagging injuries AND we don't keep rolling up more injuries all should be ok by the most important part of the season. A lot to ask