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University of North Dakota Hockey 2015-16 season
dagies replied to Frozen4sioux's topic in Men's Hockey
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Looks like Teeder11 answered that question, Cratter
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I corresponded today with Matt Kopp, student body president as I had seen an article in the Herald over the weekend (I think) where he indicated he voted for Fighting Hawks because he'd seen a cool logo(s) floated around social media. I mentioned that the best one i had seen was not going to be available as the rights were held by the Blackhawks. We all know which one that was. he said he would agree that he wouldn't want anyone to vote for a nickname just due to the logo if the logo wasn't available. He'd seen a few logos so wasn't sure which one I was referring to. Sent him a link to an image on the internet. Maybe a little too late, but FWIW
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I, for one, would like to thank whoever put that big spread in the Student.
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Wouldn't we actually WANT those students to go to NDSU instead? The Fighting Falcons? I could have gone with that.
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Assuming FH doesn't get 50+% of the vote. But in that case I guess it doesn't matter if you voted either for RR or Nodaks, because combined they would still be less than 50% total.
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I think you make a good point here Siouxman. If he's not going to be committed, not going to fully participate as a member of the team, then best to have him remove himself from the team. I think you're right there. I think the other point of view is, if you're going to commit to something on the front end, then fully commit to it. You may find out it's not the choice you prefer but man up and pitch in for both your own good and the good of the team, and then make your move at an appropriate time. But if you can't do that, then I think you're right....best to just cut the cord now.
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And here's my problem. I voted Nodaks but was inclined to vote RR (prefer either option to FH). But now we would cancel each other out. This is what I fear....RR and Nodaks voters swapping votes and cancelling out while FH voters win the day. Argh.
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Sundogs, Siouxman? Good thing you DID get brownie points for driving to Maine. Well said.
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Given the current course it's hard to see the final selection will be accepted as legitimate. And I'd say that even if my choice, Nodak's was to win with 47% of the vote.
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BOOM!
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I'd be fine with that if we actually knew which way Nodak voters or RR voters would lean this time around. But we don't, and we risk cancelling each other out. I'd do the same as you if I knew there wasn't a similar migration from RR to Nodak.
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Isn't it nice to have someone tell you what you should be offended about? O wait, where have I heard that before.....? You really summed this up nicely, Jim. I also sent a very nice email to Kelley/Johnson expressing my desire for a finalist needing to be over 50% of the vote. No answer back yet.
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I will do the same
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Jim, it would change my vote from Nodaks to Roughriders in a heartbeat if I knew that other Nodaks would vote the same way, and Roughrider voters wouldn't swing Nodaks. Problem is for everyone of me that swings from Nodaks to RR, there will probably be one swinging from RR to Nodak. So I'm at a bit of a loss on how I will proceed.
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Completely agree. Have to do 2nd run-off if no one gets 50%+ in this next one.
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Having voted for Nodaks I'm actually not pleased that the rules were changed to allow the choice on the ballot, but I think I can understand why. Kelley's created a s-storm by changing the rules now, but he likely avoided another by a constituency that really wants Nodaks as the final choice. Being the tally was quite close, I can see some logic in that decision. That said, from my perspective this is decision only make it more likely Fighting Hawks ends up winning. I suspect most Nodak and RR voter would vote for the other one, rather than Fighting Hawks. So if Nodaks didn't make the cut, I'm guessing most of those votes would go to RR. Hopefully enough to win the final vote. Similarly, had the tables been turned and Nodaks was #2 and RR #3, I suspect RR voters would have voted for Nodaks. I'd be happy to vote RR to keep Fighting Hawks from being the final selection. Unfortunately now I am afraid that there will be voters cancelling each other out to the benefit of Fighting Hawks. I also think Kelley is making a big mistake by not requiring the final selection to have 50% or more of the vote. I don't care if that does extend the process, I'll be a lot more made if Fighting Hawks is chosen by 40% of voters while 60% wanted anything else. To me that's not a good way to select a nickname and will lead to lingering bad feelings (yes, I know, any choice will).
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It's actually a very fair point. This thread is about the game on the ice. Discussions about the nickname, or how the pbp guy may have referred to UND's team should be discussed in the Nickname forum threads. Let's try to keep it that way.
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Heard Russo's and Souhan's podcast today and Russo said something interesting. You can expect higher scoring games early in the season but teams get the defensive thing figure out as the season goes on and things tighten up
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Well, there's the best reasoning to vote for Nodaks that I've seen yet.
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That's pretty good! I was able to paste in the Bernie Sanders audio in my brain while I read this
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Not that it's exactly breaking news, but Jayson Hajdu did comment on the live chat that arenas have long used "NoDak" or similar on their scoreboards. The announcers knew UND no longer used the Fighting Sioux nickname, so they likely just went with the next most obvious thing. I joked about it on the chat myself, but I can't believe it was something anyone asked them to do.
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Really happy for Hyrnkiw. What a great achievement for a walk-on 3rd string goalie, and an important non-conference win