82SiouxGuy

UND doesn't have close to every women's sport. Michigan has field hockey, rowing, lacrosse, gymnastics, and water polo instead of ice hockey.

Yet the UND women's basketball media guide only has records going back to 74-75. There were more sports for girls in the early 1900's than in the 40's, 50's and 60's. My grandmother played basketball in high school about 1920. It wasn't available to my mother in the 40's. Title IX made it available to my classmates in the 70's.

Feathers that look like a headdress would be the problem. Birds with feathers would not necessarily be offensive. Removing that bullseye makes this less headdress like. It might have passed the test. Of course it has nothing to do with the logo that is actually being designed.

For those blaming women's hockey on Title IX, most people would tell you that there may not be any women's sports in college without Title IX.

I'm sure that not all of those are fully funded. Women's basketball has a max of 15, volleyball a max of 12, softball a max of 12, track and cross country a max of 18, S&D a max of 8.1, golf a max of 6, tennis a max of 8, soccer a max of 14, and hockey 18. That comes to a total of 111.1. The actual number of scholarships given out is probably under 100. Men's scholarships include 13 for basketball, 63 for football, 12.6 for track, etc., 9.9 for S&D, 4.5 for tennis, and 18 for hockey. Total scholarships if fully funded equal 108. I don't believe that UND fully funds track, S&D or tennis, so this number is probably also under 100. For reference, baseball has a max of 11.7 scholarships and golf a max of 4.5, so UND cut a potential of 16.2 scholarships. They weren't both fully funded so the actual number is less than that. But scholarships are only 1 small part of the Title IX factor. Another related item is actual numbers on the roster. Part of the test involves opportunities. Football has 63 scholarships, but rosters often have more than 100 during the season. Baseball allows 11.7 scholarships, but allows up to 35 on the roster. Total roster spots available and used is considered when looking at Title IX. As SiouxVolley mentions, things like facilities, coaches and team related opportunities are a factor. Interests of the student body.are a factor. History of adding sports or opportunities (mainly for the underserved gender) are a factor. There are many more. Cutting women's hockey would be very hard for several reasons. Scholarships is the obvious one since women's sports already have lower numbers than men. Fewer opportunities would be a negative factor. Facilities, especially women losing access to a facility like REA, would be a red flag. Cutting sports for an underserved gender would be a huge red flag.There is very little chance of cutting women's hockey unless much bigger financial problems come up, and cutting more men's sports would be included if that happened.

I believe that women's hockey is fully funded, which means 18 scholarships. They didn't eliminate close to that number by cutting baseball and golf, and cutting the few scholarships given in men's S&D wouldn't get to that number. Women's hockey is not going anywhere.

UND needs to have football, basketball, cross country, tennis, indoor track and outdoor track to be a member of the Big Sky. After cutting baseball and golf, the only other men's sports are swimming and diving and hockey. As someone else noted, there are very few scholarships given to men's S&D. So the only sport left that would be a similar number of scholarships to women's hockey would be men's hockey. I doubt that they are going to cut men's hockey.

The NCAA Division I requires a minimum of either 7 men and 7 women, or 6 men and 8 women. They also require at least 2 team sports for each, and each has to have sports in fall, winter and spring. Other divisions have different requirements. Conferences also have their own requirements. The Big Sky requirements include 7 specific women sports and 6 specific men sports as a core. The DII and DIII schools that play DI hockey are exceptions to a couple of different rules. There is no competition in Division II for hockey, therefore they are allowed to move up (I don't think they are allowed to compete down). In the past the NCAA allowed lower level schools to compete up in 1 sport in and 1 in women, with some exceptions like basketball or football. They have changed that rule, I know that schools like Colorado College are grandfathered in.

What was different? 11 freshmen, including Brock Boeser one of the top players in college hockey, along with several other freshman that played large roles. A goalie group with about 43 minutes of total college experience when the season started. A head coach with no experience as a head coach. An assistant coach from outside the UND hockey "family". A lot of things were "different" this year. It wasn't just a different coach.

Hockey jerseys for next year were already ordered, so there is probably no chance that a new logo will be on them for next year.

Trivia questions: What regional sports channel is shown on the cable systems in places like Missoula, MT, Bozeman, MT, Cheney, WA and Spokane, WA? What colleges are located in Missoula, MT, Bozeman, MT, and Cheney, WA (located just down the road from Spokane, WA)? What college football teams would be most popular to be shown on regional sports channels in Missoula, MT, Bozeman, MT and Cheney, WA? What 2 regional sports channels are shown on the cable system in Grand Forks, ND? Is either of these regional sports channels the same as the one regional sports channel shown in Montana and Eastern Washington? This isn't rocket science, people. Root Sports showing Montana, Montana State, and Eastern Washington is like Midco Sports showing the University of North Dakota or South Dakota State. Montana, Montana State and Eastern Washington are popular teams in the territory that Root Sports covers. The Idaho schools are also part of the territory, but not as popular. It's just like Fox Sports North covering the University of Minnesota, the Wild and the Timberwolves. Fox Sports North isn't going to cover Nebraska Omaha. Any other games that Root sports cover are fill. Do you think that Midco would get a lot of viewers if they were showing Idaho versus Idaho State? Root is going to broadcast the games that are going to get viewers in their main coverage area. UND isn't in their main coverage area, so the only way they get on Root is if they are playing one of the teams that benefit Root.

Those would be people that don't know anything about how the IRS views and reviews non-profits, and don't know how the finances of college sports actually work. The IRS is very strict about monitoring non-profits, and the money that flows through them. The NCAA isn't going to risk losing its non-profit status in any way. The member schools that make up the NCAA would not let that happen. Most of the dollars pass through the NCAA and go to the individual member schools. The majority of the member schools are also non-profit organizations.

The NCAA can't keep the money. It isn't a for profit business. And they already have their gold mine in March Madness. So they don't have to make other decisions based on money.

They may or may not make money on individual regionals. They make plenty of money on the Frozen Four and on the television contract for the entire tournament, enough to pay all expenses plus make money for the season. It wouldn't make any difference whether they made money on hockey or not. They make enough money on the March Madness television contract to pay all expenses for all sports and still pay member colleges millions and millions of dollars. Plus they make good money on football. Any money they make on other sports like hockey and baseball is gravy.

Hockey is one of the few sports in the NCAA that actually makes money. The NCAA isn't complaining about a lack of revenue. Only people in places like this board are complaining about a lack of fans. The coaches understand that they could get more fans on campus, but they want a neutral site.

That's funny since there is no new logo yet.

They're working on an entire brand, not just a logo. But if they aren't successful in getting people to embrace the new logo I don't think they are going to lose much sleep. It's hard to feel a lot of "hate and indifference to the new logo" when you live 1,500 miles away. I think they are enjoying an interesting challenge in the project and will do as good a job as they can, just like they have done for their other clients. Then they will move on to the next project like professionals.

The officials will be from a different conference.

Just stating facts. Not sure where you see a problem.

That isn't what it looks like with your posts.

A football field is 160 feet wide plus space on the sidelines by 360 feet long plus buffer space to the wall or stands. A hockey rink is normally about 85 feet wide by 200 feet long with seats right by the rink. Putting a hockey rink inside a football field would leave at least 50-90 feet of space between the rink and the first seat if the rink is centered on the football field. If you put the rink along side the seats on 1 or 2 sides you leave 100-200 feet of open space between the rink and first seat on the other sides. Those are not going to be good seats.

The Alerus Center has had 1 or 2 ice shows, also. The touring companies bring in their own ice equipment.

I believe the Cher concert made money. They sold about 19,000 seats for that concert. The difference between a concert scenario and your idea is that concerts have the potential to make a profit, and usually have a potential to make a good profit. Your hockey regional scenario results in breakeven as the best possible scenario, which means that a financial loss is probable.

KFAN is a MInneapolis radio station. They are going to cater to a Minneapolis-St. Paul audience, which means a University of Minnesota audience. The Gophers are the center of the local audience that KFAN caters to, so expecting them to do something different is short sighted at best. KFAN affiliates are just along for the ride because it would be very difficult from a financial standpoint to set up completely local radio stations in any of the affiliate cities.

Why would the Alerus Center and the City of Grand Forks risk a minimum of $1 million dollars in fixed costs plus the normal game day costs, plus marketing and any other costs just for a chance to break even? Not a guarantee of breaking even, just a chance. The citizens of Grand Forks would be outraged, and with good reason. There are much better ways for Grand Forks to spend that million dollars.