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But it wouldn't have ensured maximum exposure unless they were able to reach contract agreement with all of the different cable systems. Cable One didn't show all of the games before, why would they sign a 5 year agreement to show them now? This is just my guess, but I don't think that Cable One liked showing the product for 2 reasons. One is that Midcontinent was involved in the production and got credit for it during the games. Cable One didn't like promoting a competitor. The other is that Cable One has concerns about getting too connected to UND when Fargo is an NDSU town. They would rather upset the UND fans than upset the NDSU fans. Even if UND had produced the games, I don't think that Cable One would have signed a long term agreement as long as Midcontinent was involved in any way. And UND would have had a hard time making the production work for 40 plus games without partners like Midcontinent and WDAZ. I also don't think that you would have seen HD during this 5 year contract if UND was producing the games. Considering the tight budgets for college athletics, the money involved was also very important. But I don't think that the ideal conditions that you are talking about was ever going to be available.

I could be wrong, but I don't think that Cable One ever broadcast every UND game that was available. I think they passed on hockey games every year and I don't know how many games they broadcast for other sports. That was when they were able to get the games for free. Now you expected them to agree to promote a Midcontinent product, the Midco Sports Network, for 5 years. Especially when everyone knows that the 2 companies are competing for customers and that Midcontinent is planning to move into Fargo. And you expect Midcontinent to provide that product, one of the things they plan to use to differentiate themselves from companies like Cable One, at a low cost to their competitor. Cable One didn't like broadcasting the games for free, do you think they are going to pay a substantial fee to broadcast the games? There was no way that UND could have gotten a deal that guaranteed exposure in Fargo. Not when 2 competing companies are fighting over the territory. And only 1 of them was interested in the TV rights. That is an unreasonable expectation. Midcontinent was actually willing to pay for TV rights, something that no one else was willing to do. UND took the best option available for television broadcast rights at the time.

Midco took over television production 1 year ago. The productions are part of Midcontinent's Sports Network. UND never would have purchased HD equipment this year like Midco did. I believe that this week's football game will be the first in HD.

I have quoted both of your last posts. You did not state that you were talking about the last contract proposed by Gene. You said that Mussman and Faison refused to sign the last contract offer, which was for every other year. Do you believe that only Gene Taylor can propose a contract? Faison and Taylor have continued to talk. They discussed a contract for 2015 and 2017. Faison put it on paper and sent it to Taylor. Taylor refused to sign. It is perfectly legal for either side to offer a contract. The last contract discussed was a 2 game contract, for 2015 and 2017. Taylor was willing to discuss the idea, but refused to sign the contract when it was put in writing. This is in spite of the difficulty that NDSUAAS has had in filling their football schedule the past couple of years. By the way, that makes 2 straight posts where you were wrong. This time you were wrong about what you had just posted. Did you confuse yourself?

First, it doesn't affect me at all because I also live in Grand Forks and have season tickets to both football and hockey. It doesn't matter what I believe, it does matter what is real. You seem to analyze these things with some altruistic bent, not from any sense of reality. Business has almost always operated by their own self interest. They don't give stuff away. Look back through history and you will see businesses doing what will make them the most money, not doing things that are good for people, especially not for people that aren't their customers. Do you think that Standard Oil or any of those monopolies were doing things just to be nice to non-customers? I don't think so. They wouldn't have been broken up if they were doing a lot of good things for people. You are right, business has trended toward making short term financial decisions the last 20 years or so. Sometimes that has a detrimental effect on their business for the long term. But southpaw is correct. This is more akin to a manufacturer giving away their product to a competitor. Midcontinent has a product that creates demand, UND Hockey. Midcontinent is paying for the rights to that product. Giving it to competitors is bad business. They either make the competitor pay for it, enough to make it worthwhile, or they use the product to entice the customer away from the competitor. That is what is happening in places like Fargo, with companies like Cable One. If Midcontinent wanted, they could refuse to let other competing cable companies have the product at all. They are at least making it available. But they are in no way obligated to give the product away.

As Darrell pointed out, Taylor was the one that has so far said no to the last contract offer. This has been going on for well over a year. Mussman and Faison were able to compromise. Taylor and Bohl haven't compromised, in fact they backed away from what they had originally discussed. Do you ever get tired of proving your ignorance for our entertainment?

I'm pretty sure that the Minnesota Vikings were happy with his career.

A great example of the integrity learned at North Dakota State University of Agriculture and Applied Sciences. Don't actually take care of problems, just try to distract people so they don't notice.

Half the parking lot is taken up for tailgating and for Champions Club parking. They sold out of the season tailgating spots. Cratter didn't try to get a spot until after they sold out. It's basically the same as buying tickets for a game. They have so many seats for season tickets, and the rest are sold at a higher price as single game tickets. That is what happened with tailgating spots. Here is the info on tailgating, http://www.undsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13500&ATCLID=204985525.

$15 per space for tailgating, he used 3 spaces because he brought a camper. Same price for every game. $5 to park a vehicle for a game, same price for every game.

A lot of the regulars didn't tailgate because a) it was a Thursday, and b) it was hot, especially earlier in the day. There will be a lot more people out next week on a Saturday for Potato Bowl.

Actually, it was number 7 or 8 on the active list. But it was active within the past 25 minutes, about the same time he was posting. And there are plenty more active UND threads on BSville.

Your level of obsession is interesting. Just about the only thing you post is your claim about people on this forum being obsessed with Bison football. That really is an obsession. You might want to have that checked out. Good luck with that, and thank you for your interest in University of North Dakota athletics.

Obsession - Continually posting on the bulletin board set up for a former rival and being concerned about what people on that board say about my school.

Is that a limitation of some kind in your mind? More than 1 topic confuse you?

Obviously another example of the education provided by the North Dakota State University of Agriculture and Applied Sciences. I don't think that the citizens of North Dakota are getting their monies worth out of the school.

Not a big fan of hockey fights and certainly don't want anyone hurt in a hockey fight. I don't remember cheering much when anyone fights in a hockey game. But you got 1 thing right, I do watch hockey. Does 50% right represent your normal test scores?

Wow, poor grammar and supporting violence all in one post. Way to represent that great education from North Dakota State University of Agriculture and Applied Sciences. I'm sure everyone from the President on down would be proud of you.

That's what I would call your continued posts on this forum when you are a fan of the University of Agriculture and Applied Sciences.

Let us know how things are when you move to NeverNeverLand. You say that you can't always get everything you want all the time, yet you complain because you aren't getting what you want. Companies like Cable One don't want to show something that is going to promote Midcontinent, so they aren't going to negotiate a "fair contract". And Midcontinent isn't paying $200,000 to UND per year plus all of the other costs involved in broadcasting games just so that they can help their competitors.

Obviously he's easily entertained. Might not be as gifted as you think.

They didn't lie to anyone. They said that they would make the games available to other systems. They never promised to GIVE the games to other systems. Some systems don't want to pay the price that Midcontinent is asking. And they never promised that everyone would be able to see the games. They promised to work hard to give as many people as possible a chance to see the games. From what I have seen, they have tried to work with other cable systems and continue to try to work with them. That can be seen by the list of other systems that are showing games. As is mentioned above, Cable One and Midcontinent do compete in some areas. I believe that Midcontinent also plans to move into Fargo itself, probably whenever Cable One's exclusive contract with Fargo is done. Cable One didn't like showing the games when they were being done by WDAZ-Midcontinent-UND together, they aren't going to do anything that will help Midcontinent.

Another post showing the class of North Dakota State University of Agriculture and Applied Sciences fans.

Midcontinent is using their sports channel and UND sports to build their business. It only makes sense that they play some hard ball against other cable companies if they are in competition for the same customers. As a business, why would they give their competitors the carrot they created to attract new customers? They aren't going to give it away to a competitor. But they are willing to sell it to those competitors. Midcontinent's main goal in this process is to build their business, not to provide cheap TV coverage for UND.

I believe that the correct answer is that they will allow the courts time to act on the issue, and by then he should be out of eligibility so he would no longer be of any concern.