82SiouxGuy

I think there are normally only a few around the country that get a 6th year in any given year.

From the undsports.com website story, http://www.undsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13500&ATCLID=210450142. It doesn't look like they are going to require 50% now.

They really don't like to give the 6th year, especially in football it seems. The most likely situations are when a player misses major parts of 2 different seasons because of injury.

I believe it's actually 27.29% of the vote that had their choice eliminated. That is less than Fighting Hawks got, but more than either of the other 2. I agree on the possibility of the week between votes giving people a chance to sway votes.

That about sums it up. If you're are available to play in the 2nd half of the season, and have play less than 30% of the games, you are not eligible for an extra year. He hasn't played in games, but has been considered available to play.

Fighting Hawks has been the leader with UND students since the no nickname option was removed. Based on the number of votes in total I would bet that most of the Hawks votes came from students. Maybe Nodaks was left in to stop the usual group from complaining that they were ignored.

They should just pick a bunch of words, and then use 2 different words for each game to make the nickname. Words like North, Dakota, Fighting, Stars, Roughriders, Hawks, Sundogs, Prairie and Aeros. One game they would be the North Hawks. The next the Fighting Aeros. The next the Dakota Aeros. Then North Dakota, or Roughrider Stars, or Fighting Sundogs, or Prairie Hawks. It would be kind of like the way the Oregon football team picks their uniforms. They could please just about everyone for at least a game or 2 per season. Just use the interlocking ND for the logo.

It's usually a chicken or egg kind of situation. Airlines, top rated hotels and restaurants, and other amenities need more people with money to spend to show up in a place like Grand Forks. Grand Sky may provide the infrastructure needed from a business standpoint. They're working on the money side. Then maybe the amenities can grow from there.

What do you call a lot? Compared to 82,000 eligible voters? Compared to 700,000+ residents in North Dakota? Was the number of people interested in the topic on Twitter in the thousands? I have a hard time believing that there were a huge number of people waiting up after midnight on a Friday night wondering about the results of the UND nickname vote. Sometimes I think people overreact to what may actually be a limited number of tweets on a subject. Besides, they said before the vote started that they weren't going to announce the results until next week.

I'm pretty sure they aren't closing their offices in Silicon Valley, which was my point. All of these companies have multiple locations. Google already has 300+ employees in Boulder before the new campus opens. Another example is Microsoft. They have their headquarters in the Seattle area, but also have a large office in Fargo as well as several other locations. Northrup Grumman will want to have an office in a place where UAS development is happening, so if Grand Forks grows into a major player in the industry then Northrup will keep a location open here.

Maybe the University wants to announce the results during normal hours, rather than having some computer generated announcement in the middle of the night on Friday night, when almost no one is paying attention. A presidential election is a little more important and relevant to a lot more people, so people and the news services are actually working those late hours to get the results out to the public. Not a lot of news is reported between 5 pm on Friday and Monday morning, in large part because not a lot of people are paying attention to the news.

I'm sure that's part of it. But they will also operate where they are profitable. If Grand Forks becomes one of the hubs for UAS as projected, it could become the Silicon Valley of UAS. Would Google or Apple move out of the Silicon Valley?

Northrup has been in New Town, ND for more than 40 years, so they could potentially stay in Grand Forks for a long time.

Actually, they did. Many, many, many times, on this board and in multiple other places. I noted a couple of them in my post. They use nicknames in cheers. Something like "Here we go Roughriders, here we go". If you don't have a nickname it becomes "Here we go, here we go". Instead of "Let's go, Sioux" it becomes "Let's go". They use nicknames in marketing and advertising. It adds something besides the generic name of the school, which they can still use also. They add a lot more options to put on merchandise, to make money for the University. The school can continue to use North Dakota as an option, but can sell merchandise using Nodaks and UND Nodaks and North Dakota Nodaks and have a logo or not have a logo. More options will provide more opportunity to sell and make money for the athletic department. They use nicknames in journalism as an identifier to give the story some variety. Instead of calling the team just UND or North Dakota, they can also call them Fighting Hawks or Hawks. If a new nickname isn't chosen they will use things like "Green and White" or "Whioux" or "No names". They could even come up with something worse like Banana Slugs. Those are just a few of the reasons why schools have a sports nickname, and why it is better for UND to have a nickname than to go without a nickname. Any of the final 5 can be used with different degrees of attractiveness and probably different degrees of effectiveness. But any of the final 5 are better than going without a nickname.

That's not how the medical redshirt works. If he is healthy enough to play in the the last half of the season then he is not eligible to get a medical redshirt.

No one knows whether it would have been a majority or not. There were no real surveys done, no scientific research. There is only anecdotal evidence and the people that made noise. Internet polls do not count as scientific research. "Everyone I know wanted to stay as North Dakota" isn't scientific. Ever heard of the silent majority? it is very possible that the majority of people would not have supported going without a nickname. A lot of people that are eligible to vote were not paying attention to the polls, and weren't involved in the arguments. Many people want to have the whole issue done. Going without a nickname would not have accomplished that, so it is very possible that they would have chosen one of the nicknames rather than going without. Others believe that it is important to have a nickname for a variety of reasons. Still others liked one or more of the options. Also, a lot of people that have made noise about going without a nickname are not eligible to vote. So they wouldn't have been able to vote for no nickname even if it were on the ballot. No one provided good reasons that would support going without a nickname. The overwhelming arguments were "because I want it" and "because I don't like the other choices", followed by "that way we can continue to use Fighting Sioux". Those don't support the school. Those are personal choices, notice the personal pronouns. No other relevant school goes without a nickname. Nicknames are used in cheers, used for marketing and branding, etc. Nicknames are useful for team sports and for college sports programs. That is why everyone uses them. No one gave good reasons to show how going without a nickname would be better for the University of North Dakota. The overwhelming reason given was always just that they wanted it that way.

I have said all along that there would be a group from Grand Forks that would not like having UND choose Roughriders because Red River is already using it. Some are Red River supporters that don't want their name taken, and some are Central supporters that don't like the name because their rival uses it. Both are valid reasons for them. I don't have strong attachments to either high school, so I picked the name that I felt was best for UND.

You have posted the same "fact" multiple times. That "fact" doesn't recognize the fact that North Dakota and Teddy Roosevelt have a real connection, a connection that Roosevelt himself noted many times. It doesn't recognize the fact that the state of North Dakota has used the Roughrider name and story along with the mutual connection to Teddy to create an image used to promote the state. Roughrider State is a generally recognized nickname for the state. As a recognized nickname for the state, it can be used as a nickname for the University as is done in approximately 20 other states across the country. And your "fact" doesn't recognize the definition I noted earlier where roughrider means someone who rides or breaks wild horses. Thousands of North Dakota residents throughout history have been roughriders, including many of my relatives. This also makes Roughriders a suitable nickname for UND. So your "fact" is a minor issue at most and nothing that would preclude the University from using the name. Especially when so many sports nicknames have absolutely no connection to the school or state. Besides, I don't remember any place on the ballot where anyone had to justify their vote, or give a reason for that vote. They only had to pick a name.

You are so clueless. I will repeat myself. I have never supported any of the current 5 choices. I ended up voting for Roughriders because I believe it is the most marketable of the remaining names. However, I have repeatedly said that I would support whichever nickname was chosen, because my priority is supporting the University rather than a nickname. And I haven't made a single post giving my opinion on any of the remaining nickname choices since the list was finalized, I haven't posted anything about what I think about any of the names. My issue with his constant complaints about Roughriders not being applicable to UND or North Dakota was to point out that the main definition for roughriders is very relevant to the state. So his allegations are not exactly accurate. Remember being accurate? Or have you forgotten that words have actual meanings, not just the meaning that you attribute to it.

You must really pay close attention to these threads. I have been active in the nickname threads since the NCAA announced their Native American policy. I haven't supported any of the names on the ballot. I ended up voting for Roughriders because I believe it is the most marketable of the remaining 5. It probably would have made my final 15 from the original list, but not even in the top 5. And I have been one of the people that repeatedly said that there would be a group from Grand Forks that wouldn't like Roughriders because of Red River. I have repeatedly said that I will support whichever name is chosen because my support is for the University, not for any individual nickname. I just think you will use talk out of both sides of your mouth to put down the Roughrider name. You keep trying to make the point that not a lot of North Dakotans were involved with Teddy's Roughriders, so it isn't a good fit for UND. I pointed out that the term roughriders has a strong connection to the state in other ways. You just ignore that option so you can continue to harp on your minor point. And that is beside the fact that the state of North Dakota created their own connection to the images 50 years ago, so people make the connection between North Dakota and Teddy's Roughriders even though the connection isn't real strong historically. Besides, how strong a connection did UND have to Sioux when that name was chosen. Were there even any Sioux tribe members in school in 1930? The Sioux tribe had been forced out of the Red River Valley many years before that. Roughriders probably has just as strong a connection to UND right now as Sioux did in 1930.

I have more than 5 times the number of posts as you, yeah I'm new here. You have this irrational hatred of the Roughriders nickname because you don't think there are any connections to North Dakota. Then you complain when people suggest logos that aren't related to Teddy, even though the original and most relevant definition doesn't include Teddy. Some reports have even said that the term for the military unit came from Teddy because of his time in North Dakota working with the cowboys and ranchers. Now you throw in your claim that it's a horrible mouthful of a name, even though it is less of a mouthful than Fighting Hawks, or the latest suggestion of Fighting Nodaks. We get it, you hate the name.

You seem to automatically think of Spanish American war Rough Riders, yet the main meaning of the term roughiders is found here, http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/roughrider. Every definition site is similar, the first definition is breaking or riding wild horse. The Teddy Roosevelt connection is secondary. There are (and were) a large number of roughriders in North Dakota, especially in the western part of the state. Maybe that's how people can look for a non-Teddy logo to go with the name.

You took a simple question, asking if anyone got a second vote, and jumped to the conclusion that they had email and voting problems on the website. Then you posted that conclusion on this forum as if it were a fact. It wasn't a fact. That's what you did wrong.