Bison Dan

Actually all it says is NDSU attracts a better quality HS student from the start.

You think gettting into a conference is a slam dunk? Hell we were lucky that the stars were lined up. Teams have to leave conferences for other teams to join. You'll need that luck also to get into a conference. (specially fb)

Reading comprehension must not have been a requirement at UND. No where did I say you wouldn't get into a conference. Reread the post.

Another Bill Clinton moment?

When you start getting home games with DI schools (good ones) you'll quickly see a tremendous difference in the quality of athlete and coaching over DII. I think VB was one of the sports where there was a large difference between DI and DII.

Maybe you need to reread the thread.

If you're not in a conference by then (larger one) where do you think the games are going to come from? Hell even the Griz are playing a dii school this year.

Time will tell won't it.

You know when you have won an argument when they have to start name calling.

With your schedule I wouldn't be talking. You guys have the 2nd worst schedule in our division except for USD. Only 10 games with 3 weeks off.

Real Meaning: "Well that makes things easy. Disagreeable fans (excited & passionate) and, now, lousy seats (full house)-- skip the AC and head straight for the Alerus. Better viewing (seat where you want), better tailgaiting (fans waiting for the hockey season to start) and a more congenial brand of people all around. (happy drunks)"

At UND's request. No way you will ever make me believe that the board wanted anything to do with this and only got into the mix by request or to protect UND from any negative PR.

Hard to win the conference when you don't play the best team - Cal Poly

Both will be sell outs or close to it. I don't know how you measure excitement but that's a good indicator. Austin Peay has 60 and Central I don't know.

We'll you'll have alot of practice with your home schedule.

Isn't that what you supose to do market your games? I don't see any hype or excitement for the Javs game.

Well I'll take a 8-3 DI-AA Valpo team and a full house against a 3-8 D2 team and how many?

"The ND SBoHE took UND's ability to resolve this away by their actions" My question is why? I doubt the SBoHE stepped in without being invited in by UND. UND didn't want to face this no win situation and wanted a fall guy (ND SBoHE). But whatever, it is what it is. The whole thing is stupid anyway. PC run amuck.

Maybe the old Javs - hey it's still d2 for the opener.

It's isn't too hard - If you take the special state and federal monies away the NA programs would also go away. This all boils down to relationships and UND doesn't have a good relationship with the tribes for whatever the reasons are - period.

Isn't that sweet - UND fans can name call and say whatever they want but because UND uses an Indian name for it's NICKNAME nothing can be said? Yea it's everyone's elses fault. As far as the promoting NA's - just take the state and federal money away and UND would claim that there isn't any NA's in ND. Face it UND administrations over the years are at fault, like I said before if you would have had good relations with the tribes none of the chants or t-shirts would have mattered. And don't talk to me about student sections and what they say because it's well documented the trouble that UND's students have gotten the university in. Talk about hiding your head in your ASS.

My question is why is Goetz and company even messing with this. Hell it's a NICKNAME - Let UND handle it, but the dirty little secret is they don't want to want to touch it. UND's powers to be pawned it off to the HBOE so as to be held blameless if they have to change it and then will try to get the state of ND to pay for the change. Does anyone actually think that if Mayville State changed their nickname to the "stars" that the board would even blink and care? The NCAA doesn't care one bit what Goetz and Co. does or doesn't do. You guys are so ready to blame everyone else but the real people that caused this. If UND would have had good relationships with the tribes to start with this would have never come about.

I love it when UND fans think this - this logic is what got your AD's and presidents leaving quite regularly. Your playing catch up in research, enrollment, and transitioning to DI. Fact is you were left behind 7-8 years ago, it's just most refuse to acknowledge it. But keep thinking it!!!

I think MN averaged 325 or 350 - CMU was 250 and Ball State was 150 or 200. The big plus was MN as a bus trip is alot cheaper than flying. I can't remember if we flew to the other games or not. Usually when a school gives you a guaranteed pay out they don't pick up any expenses.