Midwestern Hawk

Hit the first two throws, 50 yard double move and 48 yard gadget play. After that he was very average and the offense was almost zilch after the first qtr. do you really think 80% of D1 qbs can’t make a 35-40 yard throw to someone who is 8-15 yards open? Half the guys on the team could have made the throw to Belquist. yesterday it got to be very obvious JMU was jumping routes and we still wouldn’t take dee shots or even replay mid range throws(20 yards) til we had no choice. Watch the last three games or go through the stats and track the distance of the throws he attempts.

It’s a qb driven game at the moment.

I would try Q and maybe Feeney when he arrives . Without having a qb able to get the ball downfield or being a threat to run, makes the offense very limited. Take out the first qtr vs MSU (a gadget play and double move) and the last 3 games Tommy has been average at best . If you don’t believe me look at the numbers. Take out the gadget plays yesterday and what are you left with at QB. A guy who does not make many mistakes but who is unable to carry a team against like competition. He rarely throws the ball further than 30 yards form where he throws it(horizontal and very). I honestly can’t imagine Q can’t make most of those throws. I’m not sure what Quincy can do with his arm, but I know his size and legs change the dynamic in the field. If this team had JMU or SDSU qb IMo it’s still playing.

Wells was far better than any of our receivers no doubt about that. The long pass right before half was not to him . Do you think tommy can make either of those 2 deep throws to wells?

I was confused in Otis use too. 13 carries the last 3 games. Must have him on play count?

Tell me how JMU does if they can’t throw the ball downfield? Would have allowed us to bring another safety down in the box every play.

When we play good team. Teams with equal or better talent, the QB looms as the most important person in field . The difference maker. Watch our last 3 games, subtract the gadget pass plays and tell me what we are left with. A very smart QB who struggles mightily with arm strength and is no threat to run . That sequence in 2nd qtr where one short throw should have been picked and one throw was picked and should have been pick 6 tells the story. I don’t know if our o and d lines will ever be able to compensate for 3 minute drives and no ability to get ball downfield. watch the last 3 games with a critical eye.

We have to have someone who can either be a threat running and/or throw deep balls. Watch the game again and count the box. Last 3 games the other team has been daring us to throw it deep.

I am sure our goal is to win a Natty. Will the OL and DL EVER be good enough to do that with a game manager at QB who can't throw down field and is no threat to run? Against JMU our O was horrible in the first qtr(into a strong wind). We talk about the DL being a weakness and I agree we need a couple more bigger body types. We also need some more speed at WR. We had to score after the JMU punt miscue early in the game. The O was pathetic with that opportunity and part of that is a fumble which on Vaughn. The DPI call the play before, was a terribly weak throw which should have been intercepted. For better or worse, its a QB driven game now. Ask yourself if the Bison would be still playing with good QB play? Would we still be playing with JMU QB? He threw 3 huge deep passes in that game, big double move throw in 2nd qtr(into wind),huge completion right before half(FG) and the back breaker in the 4th qtr. Tommy won't even attempt those throws because he can't make them. If the DB doesn't hurt himself on the pick 6 that game is over in the 2nd qtr. Watch the NDSU, MSU and JMU games again, the book is out on Tommy. Stack the box and make Tommy throw it deep, he can't. TOP was a disaster the last 3 games. NDSU and JMU we struggled stopping the run, our O never gave D time to regroup with a long drive in either game, nor in last 3 qtrs vs MSU. Luckily their O was dominated by our D. Damn we are close.

Me too. The problem is there is only so much of that “gadgetry” in the cupboard. That drive kept us in the game.

SDSU rolling now. Gronowski looks to be the real deal.

Do you happen to be watching SDSU and their QB running the ball? Changes everything for a defense.

Yep . Offense was awful in that game.

Lack of arm strength and little ability:desire to run are huge problems for UND offense. You can win it all with one or the other but IMO can’t with neither. Too easy to defend. Another game with no deep balls thrown. JMU was daring us.

What?

Fun season. We are close

Our offense consists of gadget plays and Otis breaking long runs. Been this way for awhile.

We have a qb who refuses to run and can’t throw deep balls. We are at our ceiling. We will never be good enough to win a natty with that. Too easy to defend

Need a 5 minute TD drive now!

No idea.

Need to run read o with q

Spoke too sOon.

If we have 2 bad turnovers and down by 3 at half? Wow.

Wow

Tommy is so limited. So evident against better opponents