The Sicatoka
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Reading through the updated bios of the current UND mens hockey roster I noticed that Colton St. Clair graduated from Fargo South HS.
I guess I can't think of any other South graduate to play mens hockey for UND. Yeah, yeah, he never wore a South jersey; he just graduated from FSHS while playing for the USHL's Fargo Force. I know. I know.
I know there've been Fargo North graduates (Williams, Kaiser, O'Leary), but I can't come up with any Fargo South graduates.
Anyone?
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If you want to play the UND thing in the middle I've already tossed in the idea of ...
SCOUNDRELS
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Yes, I believe it was part of Freud's weltanschauung.
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Have charges been filed vs. Jimison??
Yes.
http://publicsearch.ndcourts.gov/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=2442059
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One thing that keeps getting overlooked here is no one has been charged with anything. So they are suppose to be suspended though they have not been charged, much less convicted?
Earlier this summer NDSU LB Brendan Jemison was dismissed from the NDSU team when the reports came out he was about to be charged with a class A misdemeanor. He was gone before the charges were filed. These guys: A misdemeanor, not yet charged, but still on team. That discrepancy is what is being questioned.
I know many are saying "there's more that Bohl knew when he decided on Jemison" but that, honestly, is a whisper campaign and no one should be in favor of those. If there's more Bohl should've been clear as to why the Jemison situation is different. Yes, he gave a "not drugs, not sexual" answer about why the current eight are still on the team. It sounds nice, but is unsatisfying to the media because "it is NOT ..." isn't an answer. The media wants the "it IS ..." answer.
If you don't give the media an "it IS ... " answer they'll go and dig to find one* (and may not be pleasant to people they believe to be withholding in the mean time).
*No guarantees what they find is really the right "it IS ..." answer either.
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Just remember, we're always a lawn mower toss away from problems.
It takes daily diligence on the small stuff to keep the big stuff at bay.
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The latest from the Forum:
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Was it sealed with a pipe ceremony?
It would've been medical marijuana in the pipe except ...
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Here's what really makes me laugh:
Bohl (and assumably Taylor) knew about this since before the season started (Bohl said for a couple weeks during his presser) but didn't do anything.
Bohl could have easily sat those eight (or is it more since yesterday?) for the Robert Morris game as "team discipline" and no one would've been the wiser. Then, when the AG and SecState came out this week Bohl could have come before for the cameras and said "It's a matter that's been dealt with internally. If more needs to be done that decision will be made after the charges play out in court."
Bing! He'd be done and he'd look absolutely golden. And he'd have cover with administration, fans, and media until the justice system did run its course. As an added bonus, a one-game suspension sets a tone for what he believes the punishments should be.
He should've seen dealing with it up front would save trouble later. (That's the lesson everyone can learn from Penn State by the way.)
Instead, now, he's having to deal with questions about "Why is Jemison gone but these guys still there for the same A misdemeanor charge?" and "Are you sure that this isn't related to a big game on Saturday?"
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Ojuri might take offense to moron...he clearly isn't even that bright!
Be nice.
Go to http://publicsearch....ov/default.aspx ; select Cass County; click the "Criminal\Traffic" link; Last name: Ojuri; First name: Samuel; Click Search at the bottom of the page. He must be a nice young man. Fargo Police seem to like to chat with him. But you'd hope he'd get those windows fixed by now (after two conversations).
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This just showed up in my IM. They didn't want to post it themselves. I'll do it for them because their posits seem reasonable (as do their reasons for not posting themselves).
The suggestion that a class A misdemeanor for election fraud is insignificant compared to a class A misdemeanor for exposing your Jemison in public is silly. Crimes are classified for a reason. Election fraud undermines the fundamental guarantee of having free and fair elections in our state and compromises the integrity of our electoral system.
To assume that election fraud is a victimless crime is wrong. Many people invested a significant amount of time, effort, and money into the petition drives only to have some lazy and stupid people ruin their efforts. If the sponsors of the measures decide to try again, the measures disqualified from the ballot will not be able to be brought before the voters until 2014. Even then, if they do proceed, the opponents of the measures will have an easy time campaigning against the measures by bringing up the fact that this fraud occurred.
The company that hired the petition gathers has suffered damage to its reputation and will likely be subject to a claim by the petition sponsors who will be seeking to get their money back. In turn, that company will be looking to make someone else the "fall guy".
There are likely going to be questions as to who hired the football players and whether there are NCAA rules violations involved. It's unlikely an Iowa company contracted directly with the football players. More likely, someone in Fargo brought the football players an easy opportunity to make money. Were they hired because of their athletic celebrity? Did they do the job they were paid to do (or did it turn out to be a "no show" job)? Those are questions affecting NCAA eligibility status.
Whose idea was it to sign the fictitious names? With that many invalid names and the number of people involved, there likely was some sort of plan (conspiracy). No reputable company in the business of petition gathering on a regional or national basis takes the risk of having someone ruin its reputation -- to assume that the petition gathers were not informed as to the risks of committing fraud is a pretty broad and naïve assumption.
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These guys went through a phonebook and put names down. No physical harm.
How come the words "identity theft" haven't come up, or doesn't that apply.
DUI is infinitely worse than what these guys did.
I was broadsided by a drunk driver about 30 years ago. If you want to make DUI a felony I'm all for it because what they did is an A misdemeanor (and DUI is worse than that by your statement).
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If you don't like that both are class A misdemeanors start a petition drive to get the law changed.
Until then, the law is the law. A judge, not us, will sort out any sentencing under the law as written.
As far a Bohl's handling of the situations, his different handling begs the questions: Why the difference? What's he know, what's he not saying about all the situations? Is he treating them all equally (because prima facie it sure seems not)?
Bohl would've been wise, knowing about this two weeks ago by his own words, to suspend them for the Robert Morris game. He'd have taken the teeth out of the tiger then (and not be raising the "FBS game week" questions now).
Someone mentioned Penn State and "deal with it right away" or it'll get worse. Ding. Another (albeit much smaller) case study.
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More details keep flowing in:
Petition circulators who are no longer willing to affirm their affidavits and who weren’t named Tuesday as suspects include D.J. McNorton and Don Carter, two former NDSU football players, and Lucas Albers, who is currently a member of the team.
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Not to mention the NC$$'s track record of making examples of smaller schools, e.g,, Cal Tech, for seemingly "minor" issues.*
*LOIC
LOIC?
Now, that wouldn't happen to be the NCAA's four most-favorite-est words in the world, would it?
Loss of Institutional Control.
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A good read on what Sec of State Jaeger's office found: http://www.inforum.c...icle/id/373264/
"Data, data, data: I cannot make bricks without clay." -- Sherlock Holmes
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I'll point it out again:
Jemison was about to be charged with a class A misdemeanor and is gone.
These eight are about to be charged with a class A misdemeanor and yet are still there.
That discrepancy begs the question: Why? What's behind the curtain to cause the difference?
The NCAA loves looking behind curtains. Feel fortunate when it's not your curtain.
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UND THUNDER .................I like it or thUNDer
or ThUNDer 
There's a nearby team that goes (unofficially) by Thundering Herd ...
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How are situations like this supposed to be handled under the code of student conduct handbook at NDSU (or even UND for that matter)?
NDSU's: http://www.ndsu.edu/fileadmin/studentlife/PDF_Files/CodeofStudentBehavior.pdf
UND's: http://und.edu/student-affairs/code-of-student-life/_files/docs/code-of-student-life.pdf
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... internet poker and rape are the same class of felony in Washington. Should an internet poker player face the same consequences as a rapist?
Apparently, in Washington state, yes.
But this is North Dakota, and here voter fraud is an A misdemeanor.
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If this becomes a pattern ...
Ojuri's traffic issues.
Jemison's wardrobe malfunction.
Now "voter fraud".
And that's just the last few months.
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But it is not going on at UND.
Remember: The next problem is always just a lawn mower toss away.
What is interesting is Bohl not following the precedent he set with Jemison (also an A misdemeanor). You can say there was more to the Jemison situation that triggered the dismissal, but that just opens the questions of what do or don't we know about these other eight and is Bohl dealing with them comparably.
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Sounds like some people are trying to make it into a huge deal rather than looking at what it really is. It is some college kids being lazy. I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished, but I don't think anyone(other than IMO Ojuri) should be given the boot.
So blame it on the collegiate/academic culture festering out there today where cheating (lazy, easy way out) and plagarism (or say signing someone else's name and address) is acceptable?
Call the Legislature. Tell them their silly "valid petition" and "signed affidavit" laws are out of date.
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The AG thinks eight current NDSU FB players are guilty based on an investigation by the ND Bureau of Criminal Investigation. Admittedly, the AG doesn't convict them, only a judge does that, but the AG generally doesn't spend his time filing cases he can't win.
Eight Bison football players charged
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More twists and turns:
http://www.inforum.c...icle/id/373553/
Seems the basis on which the company paid is coming into question.
However, just because someone offers what may turn out to be illegal incentive payments doesn't mean you get a pass on filing a false affidavit.
Taking the notion to the (admittedly) monstrous extreme to make the point:
Just because your boss may have offered to pay "per signature" (illegal in ND) doesn't allow you to fake names on a petition or sign a false affidavit when you turn the petition in. (However, it may "mitigate" what the court system does to you.)