The Sicatoka
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More about the MWC shunning Idaho and NMSU.
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If you weren't familiar with what a "junk-punch" would feel like, ask the athletic departments in Las Cruses and Moscow. As of about two hours ago they're familiar.
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Is Midco a full-time job for Hammer or will he still be on Valley News Live?
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The new voice of UND Hockey on Midcontinent?
RT @MikeMcFeelyKFGO: Sources telling me Dan Hammer leaving Valley News Live for Midcontinent Sports in Grand Forks. -
Could it be that we are losing Pat Sweeney but returning to ... Hammer Time!
RT @MikeMcFeelyKFGO: Sources telling me Dan Hammer leaving Valley News Live for Midcontinent Sports in Grand Forks.Given the nature of the new Midco deal, I wonder if Dan Hammer wouldn't do both hockey and football for TV.
I'd take that in a minute.
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But they'd never use/abuse that power again ... would they?
That's the prayer in Missoula, Montana.
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I think I renamed them the Politburo and the Secretary-General during the early years of the fight against the NCAA. But I like your version as well.
Khrushchev and Mao were "First Chairman" for their respective Central Committees.
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The Montanas wanted UND because UND looks like them academically and athletically, and has many of the same long-range goals and aspirations.
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Isn't UND an affiliate member of the WAC in swimming?
{DING!}
You are correct, sir.
Note the school of athlete number three of the four:
Here's the WAC WIki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Athletic_Conference#Affiliate_members
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The ramps have not been changed in Albertville. They are the same as they were back in 1979 when I started driving by them many times a year.
Then something there changed for the better. (Probably surface traffic control.)
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The WAC, if it doesn't sponsor football, which it wouldn't under this notion (Idaho would be FBS indy; other schools would play Big Sky FCS FB), has to play MBB and two other mens team sports.
The options are baseball, hockey, lacrosse, soccer and I forget what else. (Tennis, golf, wrestling, track, CC, swimming, aren't team sports, but are considered individual sports.)
So yes, I'm in GeauxSioux's boat: Baseball, which I've advocated dropping in favor of lacrosse, could work to UND's advantage in this situation because the WAC is close to having enough baseball playing members. Maybe there is a good reason why they invested in Kraft Field.
The other thing I know: If Montana or Montana State foster FBS dreams they need to add two sports each. It's 14 sports to be DI (FCS); it's 16 sports to be FBS. The Montana schools are both at 14. Wouldn't it be a kick if they decided on lacrosse with Denver playing it already. The UND would probably have to relook at its mens sports alignment. (Correction: Montana is adding softball so they'll be at 15; MSU is at 15 as they sponsor womens skiing.)
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But they'd never use/abuse that power again ... would they?
Oh my oh my, no, no, no. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
I think the NCAA should rename the Executive Committee and President to Central Party Committee and First Chairman.
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One more thing:
I'm am definitely not in favor of how the NCAA did this.
This was the Executive Committee and NCAA president making it up as they go along ... again: Another pure power-grab move.
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A school transitioning from DII to DI (FCS):
- no playoffs for four years
- scholarships capped at 63
Penn State child sex abuse penalty:
- no playoffs for four years
- scholarships capped at 65
Puts a little different spin on that part of what PSU got, doesn't it.
(Disclaimer: Concept stolen from another forum.)
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Isn't this surprisingly high for a non-football school? Their travel couldn't have been worse than what we've been doing. Do they sponsor that many more sports and scholarships than us?
You have to remember that number more than likely includes scholarship costs (and DU being private is not cheap).
You can see the sports they sponsor here: http://www.denverpioneers.com/
DU isn't listed in here, http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/story/2012-05-14/ncaa-college-athletics-finances-database/54955804/1 , because they are private.
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Love him, hate him, miss him, whatever, here are the thoughts of "NoDak" about who wants to align with whom if all this were to come to pass.
And to the point GeauxSioux drew out, is the BSC really interested in saving the WAC? Well, if you mean "Fullerton" when you say the BSC, no. He'd rather have Idaho back in the BSC and be done (and have one less competing conference to his BSC in the west).
If you mean "Montana and Montana State (and probably three other BSC schools)" when you say BSC, yes. Montana and Montana State (and the others) want to keep an FBS option open to them in the west. The only way to do that is to keep the WAC alive (even if it is on life-support for a while).
All I know is that Faison is "crazy like fox" in getting a "$0 buy out" from the BSC for UND when UND joined.
UND may be the BSC-noob right now, but
- UND's AD came from current WAC member NMSU
- UND's academics rank above everyone in the BSC (and only behind DU and Idaho in this BSC / WAC conversation)
- UND has a $0 buy out from the BSC if they exercise it correctly
- UND got into the BSC for some reason (and the suspicion is that Montana and Montana State wanted a name, national school with aspirations and potential for higher levels)
Those things make me smile because they put UND in a very nice position as all this unfolds.
Mr. Faison has done some very good things in his time in Grand Forks. I wonder if he has one or two more things for us.
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Stealing this data from "NoDak" (cough-wemissyoustar2city-cough) from another board:
Athletic Budgets:
New Mex St $27
Idaho $17.5
Boise St $37.5 (much of it football)
Seattle Not avail
Denver ($28 per Puck Swami)
North Dakota $18.7
Montana $18.7
Montana St $20.7
Sacramento St $17.4
Portland St $11.4
Idaho St $10.5
E Wash $10.2
Weber St $11.0
S Utah $9.3
N Colo $11.0
N Ariz $10.7
Bakersfield $9.5
Utah Valley $9.1
Who are the top 3 academically on that list? Denver, Idaho, and North Dakota. Why mention that? School presidents, not ADs or fans, make conference decisions.
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You mean like you've been doing for the last 8 years. Only trouble is you have been failing to keep up...
I don't see how you can remotely claim UND has ridden NDSU's coat tails.
UND got into the conference that NDSU once aspired to (and got rejected by).
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NDSU would actually be a very nice 8th football school.
1. We continue to hear the story of how happy NDSU is in their present Summit / MVFC arrangement. Let that dog sleep.
2. NDSU's end dream is the Missouri Valley Conference (all sports).
3. NDSU would never go anywhere where it would appear that they had to ride in on UND's coat tails to get in (especially if it were true).
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does anyone know exactly what ndac's buyout is? and would there be two of them one from summit and one for mvfc?
Trusting my memory here, but I believe NDSU has to stay in the Summit for 8 years or it's a $250k buyout.
Similarly, I believe NDSU has to stay in the MVFC for 8 years or it too is a separate $250k buyout.
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The "Big West" -- sounds intriguing, to say the least!
That name exists as a California based non-FB playing conference.
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Lest we forget, when it was announced that UND was accepted to the Big Sky it was also announced that UND has no buy-out if they left the BSC. (I do believe there are certain situations or conditions are attached but were never clearly spelled out.)
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What gets me is the conversations about some schools needing to add sports to be FBS (must have 16 sports).
UND is currently at 21:
M: baseball, basketball, CC, golf, football, hockey, S&D, tennis, T&F*
W: basketball, CC, golf, hockey, soccer, softball, S&D, tennis, T&F*, volleyball
* in counting "teams" T&F count "twice", once as indoor T&F, once as outdoor T&F
Big Sky/WAC Merger
in NCAA News
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For NDSU (or SDSU) to do anything before their 8 years in Summit or MVFC is up would cost them $500k per conference. Yes, for NDSU to completely "jump ship" on both the Summit and MVFC before spending the full 8 years would cost them a total of $1,000,000.00. NDSU is through 4 of the 8 years. They 2016 season is the first season they could play outside the MVFC and not have to pay a buy-out.
And if you ask NDSU fans at Bisonville, the end game for them is full membership in the Missouri Valley.