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Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
In a recent Herald article the consultant mentioned (one word) Roughriders would be easier to trademark. -
That's what she said.
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I don't really exist. I'm just like Tony Stark's "JARVIS" artificial intelligence in the Avengers films.
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Walker wore 10; now he wears 2. Depending on how you look at it, he's wearing the same value. "There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't." I wonder if he chose 10 for that reason (because he wanted value = 2); if he did, a tip of the cap to him!
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The New Nickname vs. No Nickname Debate Thread
The Sicatoka replied to MafiaMan's topic in UND Nickname
They're prepping for the "couldn't come up with anything original ... stole idea from the FM baseball team" shtick. -
When I've heard "Nodaks" used it's by non-North Dakotans and it's used as a not-so-positive term, like bumpkins, rednecks, hicks, wasicu*, or gaijin**. *Friends of BJ Rainbow and Erich Longie reading this: Yeah, you know you use that Lakota term in a not so endearingly tone. Shame on you. **Bet you didn't know I know a little Japanese too
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The New Nickname vs. No Nickname Debate Thread
The Sicatoka replied to MafiaMan's topic in UND Nickname
Wasn't sure what you meant until I read the accountant's definition of the phrase: Don't say "North Dakota", say "no nickname", because the underlying reality is no nickname. Saying "North Dakota" is hiding the true intent (keep on saying the old nickname). -
Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
So not Section 8, but still "hockey rich area". -
Let's break the 15 into categories: "Duckies, bunnies, rainbows, and unicorns" - Sundogs, Pride "Intangible nouns" - Spirit, Force, Blaze, Fighting Green, Nodaks "Raptor" - Green Hawks, Fighting Hawks, Thunder Hawks "Geography/Astronomy" - North Dakota, North Stars "People" - Cavalry, Explorers, Roughriders
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Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
So a northern Minnesotan (Section 8?) knew the name of a school that is known for HS hockey in ND. A hockey rich area knew a strong neighboring hockey team's name. Not surprised. But I'll bet you they can't name Fargo North and Wahpeton. -
Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
Tim Raines and Gary Carter rule! -
The New Nickname vs. No Nickname Debate Thread
The Sicatoka replied to MafiaMan's topic in UND Nickname
First, please don't say "North Dakota". Please say "no nickname", because that's what it is. Semantics? Maybe. But "North Dakota" can not be the nickname as "Dakota" is a tribal name and open to sanction. A blank space (no nickname) is not a tribal name. (It's also not all that marketable, but that's for another day.) Secondly, we've heard some theories on why "North Dakota" is on that list. As dagies said, "Because if (Kelley) came out right now and said "I've checked with the NCAA and they said selecting no nickname would satisfy the agreement" there would be such a groundswell that it would destroy the process of selecting an actual nickname." That's one theory. An alternate theory of why no statement would be that by eliminating the no nickname option some quarters would be up in arms that the NCAA is sticking it to UND and forcing UND into something, again. -
The New Nickname vs. No Nickname Debate Thread
The Sicatoka replied to MafiaMan's topic in UND Nickname
I agree with your last sentence. The only problem? The NCAA general assembly has since voted to give the NCAA executive committee vast and far reaching powers to rule (I won't even call it govern) in matters of this nature. Today's non-existent rules are tomorrow's executive committee arbitrary and capricious edicts. -
The New Nickname vs. No Nickname Debate Thread
The Sicatoka replied to MafiaMan's topic in UND Nickname
I read Chewey's past opinions about how the Spirit Lake lawsuit was going to win in Federal court over the NCAA. I actually attended sessions in Judge Ralph Erickson's courtroom. I saw how the NCAA attorneys and how a Federal judge views these matters, first hand. Given that track record, I temper my belief in Chewey's opinions posted here. -
Your last "yes", to "By not selecting a new name and being "North Dakota" UND can still unofficially be known as the Fighting Sioux?" is my concern. I believe (opinion alert) that the NCAA will come back at UND with the word "new" from the settlement agreement and say "nothing" is not "new" and stick it to us ... again. I'm not willing to go down this fiasco path again.
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That article has some phrases that need mention here:
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How long until "Green Hawks" becomes "Green Horns". That's why. And that's why you choose a nickname. You choose a nickname. You choose a nickname (and a blank is not a nickname).
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Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
Source: http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/PressArchive/2005/Announcements/NCAA%2BExecutive%2BCommittee%2BIssues%2BGuidelines%2Bfor%2BUse%2Bof%2BNative%2BAmerican%2BMascots%2Bat%2BChampionship%2BEvents.html So, having a tribal name in school name (University of North Dakota) isn't the NCAA's issue. That's beyond their control. Having a tribal name in "references in their intercollegiate athletics programs" (see: nicknames and mascots for athletics) is the National Collegiate Athletics Association's issue and focal point, and in their realm of (micromanaging) control. -
Duby? Incentive laden contract. Why? I still think he's a "1A", not a "#1", goalie.
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Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
You didn't say "Dakota" (the tribe name). It escapes. (Again, not my arbitrary and capricious rules.) -
Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
Not in the eyes of the people that made the (admittedly arbitrary and capricious) rules. -
Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
I'll state this also: If "North Dakota" is on that list, and intends to mean really "no nickname", I'd like to see a document from the NCAA saying that "no nickname" (a blank space) complies with the settlement agreement in their point of view so we don't repeat this fiasco. One final statement: Pick a new nickname. A blank space is not good enough. -
Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
North Dakota State University -- formal name Bison -- nickname -
Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
" ... transition to a new nickname and logo ... " I'll state this: "North Dakota" as a nickname would be new (and redundant), but it would also violate the "no tribal names" policy that got us here. -
Biggest drawback for each remaining name (final 15)
The Sicatoka replied to jimdahl's topic in UND Nickname
The University of North Dakota is transitioning to a new nickname. There is no recognized nickname at this time.