Goon Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 My buddy mentioned something to me, Lee doesn't like to go into the corner and get the puck he will look to his defensive partner like you go get it. Sure enough after this was brought up I noticed the same thing. That is not a good quality to have if your a defensive player. Sure he has offense but I rather see Bina out there than Lee. I say but Radke back on the point and stick Lee up on the forward positon. The criticisim of Lee this season is warranted, sure he is an OK player but its not unreasonable for the fans to expect more out of a kid that is supposed to be a 1st round draft choice and is playing more like a confused undrafted rookie. I am still crossing my fingers the Sens will want him to sign after the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie#12 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Yup. The $975 for Staffords jerseys came from a phone bid. From what I heard, he/she is a UND alum living in NY with deep pockets. Lee had a few different bidders, but I dont know where it ended up. If it's who I think it is, he has a great UND collection and lives near Buffalo. At least I know I won't get a phone call this week, saying I won a jersey. Now if Rylan could shoot the puck before he skates into the goalie, he might have better numbers. Just shoot the thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I am still crossing my fingers the Sens will want him to sign after the season. Why? You need to think about how much more difficult it will be for UND to recruit another defenseman of his caliber if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Anyone know what Lee's green jersey went for last night? Last I saw it was $625, and Staffords was at $975. Unnamed sources indicate it went for $700. Count me among Lee's fans. Last night, I think we saw what his absence would mean to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Count me among Lee's fans. Last night, I think we saw what his absence would mean to the team. I think UND missed Fabian and Lee more than MSU missed its three players. Of course, that's the whole strategy behind starting a fight at the end of a lost cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Why? You need to think about how much more difficult it will be for UND to recruit another defenseman of his caliber if that happens. PCM- Everyone knows that you don't know what you've got until it's gone. As you can see, Lee's absence in the lineup last night really improved UND's game. Sorry, I worded this wrong. I'll rephrase: We didn't win because Lee got himself DQ'd on Friday night. Hence, this is another game we can blame Lee for. A much more apt description of last night's failings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soohockey15 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 My buddy mentioned something to me, Lee doesn't like to go into the corner and get the puck he will look to his defensive partner like you go get it. Sure enough after this was brought up I noticed the same thing. That is not a good quality to have if your a defensive player. Sure he has offense but I rather see Bina out there than Lee. I say but Radke back on the point and stick Lee up on the forward positon. The criticisim of Lee this season is warranted, sure he is an OK player but its not unreasonable for the fans to expect more out of a kid that is supposed to be a 1st round draft choice and is playing more like a confused undrafted rookie. I am still crossing my fingers the Sens will want him to sign after the season. Yeah, that's a really good point. What a mistake Hak is making by having Radke play foreward and not D. Haha, cmon now, theres a reason that they moved Radke to a position that he'd played sparingly before (and never as a Sioux). Think before you speak next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Yeah, that's a really good point. What a mistake Hak is making by having Radke play foreward and not D. Haha, cmon now, theres a reason that they moved Radke to a position that he'd played sparingly before (and never as a Sioux). Think before you speak next time. Maybe you should relax. Just throwing it out there as an idea. This is a message board where ideas are discussed. If you don't like the ideas don't read the message board. Lee offensive skill is unbelievable, defensively he is a liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior24 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 well come on, we all know how bad radke is. Well actually not all, most Sioux hockey fans like him because he tries to be tough and fight someone after every whistle, and throws his body and people and lands about one out of every 14.2 hits. Other than that hes well, not one hell of a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 well come on, we all know how bad radke is. Well actually not all, most Sioux hockey fans like him because he tries to be tough and fight someone after every whistle, and throws his body and people and lands about one out of every 14.2 hits. Other than that hes well, not one hell of a player. I think he does alright at defense he given a chance. Taking 4 penalties during a game and one leading to a power play goal was ill advised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soohockey15 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I think he does alright at defense he given a chance. Taking 4 penalties during a game and one leading to a power play goal was ill advised. (Trying to hide laughter...still trying...still trying...just can't) HA HA HA HA HA HA. Wow. Theres a reason he's not playing defense anymore. Because...he's...an...awful...defender. Seriously Finley is less of a liability than Radke is. They moved him to defense for the last minute of Friday's game, and what does he do? Take a stupid stupid penalty. Then last night, goes into the corner and gives an obvious elbow to a Mankato player, draws another penalty. There's a reason he's been passed on for the past 3 years in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 (Trying to hide laughter...still trying...still trying...just can't) HA HA HA HA HA HA. Wow. Theres a reason he's not playing defense anymore. Because...he's...an...awful...defender. Seriously Finley is less of a liability than Radke is. They moved him to defense for the last minute of Friday's game, and what does he do? Take a stupid stupid penalty. Then last night, goes into the corner and gives an obvious elbow to a Mankato player, draws another penalty. There's a reason he's been passed on for the past 3 years in the draft. I don't think anyone is suggesting Radke be drafted, I wonder if he will be able to crack the line up next season. If Radke can tone it down he can add something to this years team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_Hab-it Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 (Trying to hide laughter...still trying...still trying...just can't) HA HA HA HA HA HA. Wow. Theres a reason he's not playing defense anymore. Because...he's...an...awful...defender. Seriously Finley is less of a liability than Radke is. They moved him to defense for the last minute of Friday's game, and what does he do? Take a stupid stupid penalty. Then last night, goes into the corner and gives an obvious elbow to a Mankato player, draws another penalty. There's a reason he's been passed on for the past 3 years in the draft. I not trying to laugh at your hockey knowlededge but I can't think of a subtle way to tell you that you only get one shot at the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I think UND missed Fabian and Lee more than MSU missed its three players. Of course, that's the whole strategy behind starting a fight at the end of a lost cause. Agree. Always reassuring to share an opinion with the Arena Reporter. Definitely,MSU needed to take the Sioux off our game, and it worked. A bit off topic for this thread, but think about how much worse things would have been with Kaip out - not overstating to say that his presence may have been the difference between a tie and a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soohockey15 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I not trying to laugh at your hockey knowlededge but I can't think of a subtle way to tell you that you only get one shot at the draft. Weird, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_Entry_Draft, this says that any player 18-20 is eligible for the draft. Now if there's something that I'm missing my mistake, but my understanding is that a person has 3 chances to be drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxdonyms Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Weird, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_Entry_Draft, this says that any player 18-20 is eligible for the draft. Now if there's something that I'm missing my mistake, but my understanding is that a person has 3 chances to be drafted. That's correct with the rules stating that you can be drafted a 2nd time, but after that, you're no longer eligible to re-enter the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Wow. The lovefest hath begun. This thread has outlived its usefulness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Wow. The lovefest hath begun. This thread has outlived its usefulness. This is a message board and we are discussing sioux play. Some get a little to sensative when their favorite players short coming get pointed out. Talk is healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxtatoo42 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 it's been awhile since i've chimed in here but this thread is playing to my biggest beef with the sioux this year. I can honestly say that i feel that Kyle Radke is the biggest liability on the team in all aspects of hockey and would love nothing more than to see him humbled by getting his ass beat by one of the many many many other players that he tries to engage. I'm sorry kyle, you aren't Prpich.. you never will be... I've noticed that this year he's loosened his helmet up like Prpich so that it's easier to pull for a fight, or if it falls off people can see the look on your face...at least Prp was smiling cuz he's having fun...Kyle just looks up to the scoreboard in hopes of seeing himself. He skates hard and that is all the credit i will give him...7 out of 10 of his missed checks end up in a penalty out of frustration, and enough of those turn into pp goals. Unless hak sees something in him that most people don't, he shouldn't crack the lineup. I'd rather see martens out there or at least give forney a chance to get over his fear of going into the corners. My thoughts on brian lee are that he is way too soft for his size. I'm not saying that he should be laying out people left and right and spending his evenings in the penalty box, but i'm tired of watching him bear hug the opponent and stick checking the puck when he could be the first one there. I guess the problem with being the first one to the puck means he might get hit as he gets it up to his winger. The fight was a joke, he wanted no part of it and you could see by the look on his face that he was scared..until the officials got in. His offensive numbers aren't that impressive and if he is going to be the "quarterback" of the 1 pp unit, he needs to not be so afraid to shoot the puck. Just let it rip man. I know that DOT are the ones you want shooting the puck for the most part, but i've seen so many opportunities go down the drain because of lee not shooting, making a bad pass, and the pp doesn't get going again...so hit someone and shoot the damn puck. First round picks have zero excuses this late into their second year and he shouldn't be the exception to that rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 it's been awhile since i've chimed in here but this thread is playing to my biggest beef with the sioux this year. I can honestly say that i feel that Kyle Radke is the biggest liability on the team in all aspects of hockey and would love nothing more than to see him humbled by getting his ass beat by one of the many many many other players that he tries to engage. I'm sorry kyle, you aren't Prpich.. you never will be... I've noticed that this year he's loosened his helmet up like Prpich so that it's easier to pull for a fight, or if it falls off people can see the look on your face...at least Prp was smiling cuz he's having fun...Kyle just looks up to the scoreboard in hopes of seeing himself. He skates hard and that is all the credit i will give him...7 out of 10 of his missed checks end up in a penalty out of frustration, and enough of those turn into pp goals. Unless hak sees something in him that most people don't, he shouldn't crack the lineup. I'd rather see martens out there or at least give forney a chance to get over his fear of going into the corners. My thoughts on brian lee are that he is way too soft for his size. I'm not saying that he should be laying out people left and right and spending his evenings in the penalty box, but i'm tired of watching him bear hug the opponent and stick checking the puck when he could be the first one there. I guess the problem with being the first one to the puck means he might get hit as he gets it up to his winger. The fight was a joke, he wanted no part of it and you could see by the look on his face that he was scared..until the officials got in. His offensive numbers aren't that impressive and if he is going to be the "quarterback" of the 1 pp unit, he needs to not be so afraid to shoot the puck. Just let it rip man. I know that DOT are the ones you want shooting the puck for the most part, but i've seen so many opportunities go down the drain because of lee not shooting, making a bad pass, and the pp doesn't get going again...so hit someone and shoot the damn puck. First round picks have zero excuses this late into their second year and he shouldn't be the exception to that rule. Add soft that won't go into the corner and I am 100% behind your statement. I am hoping Lapoint has a mean streak and is offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSue Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 When I first saw this topic I thought oh no here we go again with the Lee bashing, but after reading the posts I agree with what a lot of you are saying. Lee is never going to be a punishing hitter and I don't think that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 When I first saw this topic I thought oh no here we go again with the Lee bashing, but after reading the posts I agree with what a lot of you are saying. Lee is never going to be a punishing hitter and I don't think that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDLeafsGuy Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I am a big Brian Lee fan and it's just funny to me how 90% of the Sioux fans at the game think he is the worst player on the ice. On Mankato's second goal, all he was trying to do was stop the puck so he could turn and fire it down the rink. All 6 of the other Sioux defenseman would have done the same thing but it just happened to be him and hit his stick and go into the net. This is when everyone starts yelling about how bad he is and he shouldn't see the ice anymore. But then he gets into a scrap and everyone is behind him, yelling how great he is. No one got mad at Finley last season in the national semifinals when the puck hit his stick and went over Parise's sholder to put BC up 3-0. Everyone was there supporting him. Lee is human and he makes mistakes. I was so happy when he scored last night so it would shut up all of the Brian Lee haters out there and show that he is a very good player and will be playing in the NHL someday. Brian Lee is the most hated player by UND fans to ever put on a Sioux jersey. There is no hate. Are you related to #22? He has average skating ability, will not take the body, can't contain an opposing player when they have the puck in the corner, makes marginal outlet passes .............. and trust me by the looks of his squaring off last Friday night against the Mankato player HE WANTED NO PART OF THAT FIGHT. BTW ...... he will not see a regular shift in the NHL ............. I am a Sioux fan and only can tell it the way I see ......... no offence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Lee might have been a better fit with the gophers. I am sure that He will blossom like Wheeler did next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxman Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Brian Lee was supposed to have a huge offensive side. He has been a liability on the defensive, not necessarily a pylon, but not doing the things a defensive player needs to do. I think Lee has been snakebitten this year. When things go wrong for him, they really go wrong. Hopefully he can turn it around next year, because I sure don't see the pros wanting to move him up unless they feel they can do a better job developing him in the minors. I am not a Lee hater, just very disappointed in his play this year. He is definitely in a sophomore slump. Chorney, on the other hand, is a far more complete d-man defensively and is showing a very strong offensive side. That is especially true for a sophomore. He looks far more comfortable than Lee out there and is outplaying him hands down. Gophers brag up Goligoski a lot, but Chorney is just as offensive this year and is solid on defense. Offensively, Chay Genoway has a huge upside. He is showing flashes of brilliance. He is not overtly strong on the defensive side and not a big hitter, but he has not shown the timidness of Lee either. In a couple of years he could be an outstanding defenseman, on both sides of the puck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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