MafiaMan Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 My critique: Politically correct: Check Meaningless symbol sure to offend no one: Check Pointless name such as Sun, Fever, Shock, Heat, Miracle, or Magic: Check Overall grade: A+ Quote
MafiaMan Posted August 21, 2006 Author Posted August 21, 2006 Just for the record, here was the "old" football helmet. Clearly, even the the casual fan can see how much more offensive this is than the Florida State Seminoles helmet. Quote
PCM Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 My critique: My critique of your critique: Politically correct: "Savage Storm" in the heart of "tornado alley"? This could be a problem the next time there's an outbreak of killer tornados in Oklahoma, which is only a matter of time. Meaningless symbol sure to offend no one: Did you forget this AP story from back in January? Some American Indian groups say Southeastern Oklahoma State officials made a poor decision when they changed the school's nickname from the Savages to the Savage Storm. "It remains a slap in the face to all Native Americans and needs to be retired along with other images deemed racially harmful," said Cindy Martin, a member of the Tulsa Indian Coalition Against Racism. Pointless name such as Sun, Fever, Shock, Heat, Miracle, or Magic: True, but when you combine the pointless name with a previously used racist word such as "savage," someone's bound to be offended. Overall grade: C Quote
ScottM Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 In related news, has-been child star Fred Savage recently announced a lawsuit against Southeastern Oklahoma State University for trademark infringement, disparagement, intentional infliction of emotional distress, interference with prospective advantage and caving into the NC$$ like a bunch of candy-asses. Damages in excess of $100,000,000,000 are being sought. Developing ... Quote
PCM Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Clearly, even the the casual fan can see how much more offensive this is than the Florida State Seminoles helmet. The offense, as I understand it, was in tying the word "savages" to American Indians. However, I was quite disappointed that SEOSU didn't throw a monkey wrench into the NCAA machine by dropping the Native American imagery and keeping the name Savages. That way, SEOSU could have argued that it was following Merrimack's example when it retained the Warriors nickname and disassociated it from Native American imagery. Savages, like warriors, come in all races, nationalities and ethnicities. Bradley University was allowed to maintain its Braves nickname by disassociating it from Native American imagery. The NCAA said William and Mary could remain The Tribe and Illinois could remain the Fighting Illini as long as they both disassociated themselves from Indian imagery. SEOSU should have kept its name and changed its logo. Quote
Diggler Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 I don't see why they even needed to change their name. It's not like they make the playoffs in any sport. Quote
MafiaMan Posted August 21, 2006 Author Posted August 21, 2006 The offense, as I understand it, was in tying the word "savages" to American Indians. However, I was quite disappointed that SEOSU didn't throw a monkey wrench into the NCAA machine by dropping the Native American imagery and keeping the name Savages. That way, SEOSU could have argued that it was following Merrimack's example when it retained the Warriors nickname and disassociated it from Native American imagery. Savages, like warriors, come in all races, nationalities and ethnicities. Bradley University was allowed to maintain its Braves nickname by disassociating it from Native American imagery. The NCAA said William and Mary could remain The Tribe and Illinois could remain the Fighting Illini as long as they both disassociated themselves from Indian imagery. SEOSU should have kept its name and changed its logo. Whoa whoa whoa whoa. What exactly are you inferring by your use of the word 'monkey'? The school I really liked was Carthage College removing a feather from it's "C" and calling themselves the Red Men instead of Redmen and having sensitivity training to ensure that students and faculty know there is NO association with Native American imagery. What a crock. Quote
THETRIOUXPER Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Whoa whoa whoa whoa. What exactly are you inferring by your use of the word 'monkey'? I think you're ok with "monkey",as long as you don't combine it with "spanking". Quote
IowaBison Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 No sh$t. According to Darwin (well, not really) I had ancestors who were simian in nature. Quote
MafiaMan Posted August 21, 2006 Author Posted August 21, 2006 I think you're ok with "monkey",as long as you don't combine it with "spanking". Is the word "chicken" similarly offensive? What about "clown"? Or "weasel"? Quote
IowaBison Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 What about "clown"? Given the NCAA's process/thinking as long as there is consensus among UND's student body, you should be fine. Quote
THETRIOUXPER Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Is the word "chicken" similarly offensive? What about "clown"? Or "weasel"? You forgot "bald headed champion" Quote
MafiaMan Posted August 21, 2006 Author Posted August 21, 2006 You forgot "bald headed champion" Oh now that's funny. Very funny. Quote
THETRIOUXPER Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Oh now that's funny. Very funny. Being a folically challenged person myself, I have to say I'm all for the university changing their name to the UND "bald headed champions" Quote
MafiaMan Posted August 21, 2006 Author Posted August 21, 2006 Being a folically challenged person myself, I have to say I'm all for the university changing their name to the UND "bald headed champions" How about the Purple-Headed Warriors? Quote
MafiaMan Posted August 21, 2006 Author Posted August 21, 2006 Given the NCAA's process/thinking as long as there is consensus among UND's student body, you should be fine. Maybe if they were the "Clown Boxers"? Quote
THETRIOUXPER Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Maybe if they were the "Clown Boxers"? Well, since we have degenerated almost to the point of no return, how about.............."the fist commanders". Quote
MafiaMan Posted August 21, 2006 Author Posted August 21, 2006 Well, since we have degenerated almost to the point of no return, how about.............."the fist commanders". Truly, we have reached a new low. Quote
PCM Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Truly, we have reached a new low. Showalter: I'm not going to debate you Jerry. Jerry: Okay. Showalter: I'm not going to sit here and debate. Quote
MafiaMan Posted August 21, 2006 Author Posted August 21, 2006 Showalter: I'm not going to debate you Jerry. Jerry: Okay. Showalter: I'm not going to sit here and debate. Can't we just go back to KESSEL UPDATE, PCM? Quote
THETRIOUXPER Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Go BaldChickenMonkeyWeasels! Don't you mean "BaldChickenMonkeyWeaselCommander's"? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 Don't you mean "BaldChickenMonkeyWeaselCommander's"? No, the BaldChickenPurpleMonkeyWeaselCommanders. Quote
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