zonadub
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So, when will it no longer be considered bad timing/poor taste to announce an extension and raises for Jones and his staff?
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4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
17 sports, with MGolf on life support.
There's Faison's 16 minimum.
However, I must note: 16 is FBS minimum; 14 is FCS minimum.
Calling SiouxVolley
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The harsh reality for the women's hockey supporters is that there is no way UND could have made that level of cost cutting without cutting women's hockey. Any other combination of teams/sports would not have been able to save the athletic dept as much as including women's hockey could. UND needs to maintain enough sports, Faison said 16, to remain NCAA compliant. Softball, soccer, tennis are not nearly as expensive combined as WIH was. The depth of cost cutting UND made yesterday clears the way for the other programs to be supported at a championship level, and should allow UND to pay the football and basketball staffs at competitive levels and allow them to keep their staff in place for more than a year at a time.
i still think the dropping of baseball last year was a set-up to clear Title IX compliance to drop women's hockey this year. Sad to see baseball had to take the hit, especially now that UND is heading to the Summit, but that might be why the team was cut a year ago.
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On March 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM, gfhockey said:
Good bye swimming and diving
wish women's hockey would get the dam boot
a friend of mine lives next to a staff of swimming and diving
only sport I know of as of now
Thinking back to a post gfhockey made yesterday -that a neighbor of a S & D coach had said that sport was being cut makes me think that
1. gfhockey's info was good
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2. At least the coaches knew before today' press conference. If they did know, there was the opportunity for them to tell their players, if they felt it was appropriate
so, if Idalski knew, like the S&D coach did, was he really out of town "recruiting"?
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2 minutes ago, UND GUY said:
From reading in the past, it seems as if there were some here crying afoul about UND's Title IX situation. Over-compliant, or hyper-compliant were the terms.
This absolutely proves that, doesn't it?There was some deception going on within the athletic dept from Title IX backers......or some people didn't understand the rules.
Sure do hope the higher-ups who were pushing the hyper-compliance concept are going to be shown the door. They're partially to blame for the dog and pony show in the athletic department over the past year and some months. They've added to the confusion & created a fear of doing wrong by Title IX. Which was a lie.
Or...
baseball and men's golf were sacrificed last year to clear the Title IX path to drop women's hockey now.
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1 hour ago, WiSioux said:
Really? Because I see this as a black eye on the athletic department.
Or a black eye for the ND budget?
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15 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:
So how bad was this under representation of men's sports?
More than a baseball team
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Where is the outrage on behalf of the s/d teams? They are just as impacted as the wh team, yet they are getting no ink.
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Funding other sports at a championship level. Raises for coaching staffs, especially assistants?
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10 minutes ago, gfhockey said:
Another source and idk if this is true as he has been unreliable
we will still have women's hockey However no schollies
Make it a club team
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Not that I'm aware of. I just don't see any other reason to justify that $2 MM a year money pit.
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7 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:
was thinking the same thing...they get 2 for 1 but don't you need six team for a conference? unless they do an affiliate minny, wisco, osu, und, penn state, and one affiliate like UMD? or wait it out for one school to add? you would think michigan or michigan state would be a natural fit for wih?
Yeah, my point was not that I think the B1G is going to add women's hockey, just that if UND women's hockey is saved, it should be because both teams are going to the B1G
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The only thing that should keep WIH on the roster is if the B1G is starting a women's conference and having a women's team is a requirement of inviting UND to the B1G hockey conference.
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2 hours ago, CMSB95 said:
So here's something to ponder. To cut any sports now they can't be any sports that are core to Big Sky....so seems soccer is safe with new hire....that would leave men's golf, swim/dive, WH and softball. Per Big Sky core sports it includes women's golf and men and women's tennis. So say WH gone...they will want to cut deeper. Do they cut all the remaining sports...they avoid any issues with Big Sky then. They don't want to jeopardize any potential conference championships for the next year. Or....do thy jump to Summit early....
Or the implementation of the cuts are delayed, starting with the 2018-19 school year. Unless it is only women's hockey.
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Looks like soccer is not being cut
Citowicki joins soccer staff
http://www.undsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13500&ATCLID=211536593
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As they say...
if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it make a noise?
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17 hours ago, NoDakFan said:
I'm sure this has been discussed, but when does the MVC schedule start? I assume after the 2019 season?
UND joins the MVFC in 2020
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6 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said:
If UND WHKY was consistently winning conference/tournament championships and making trips to the NCAA tournament, you could at least make a case for them. But 0 regular season or conference tournament championships and 2 NCAA tournament appearances in 13 years (0 wins) is definitely not justifying taking a 1.5 million dollar hit every year to keep the program around.
Isn't that without any costs associated with using the REA?
iirc, all the costs from the REA are charged against men's hockey.
That would make the cost of women' ice hockey closer to $2 MM.
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If the REA costs are allocated properly, how do you justify keeping the WIH money pit while eliminating 4 other sports and potentially 100 athletes?
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3 hours ago, bincitysioux said:
So let me guess. In the remote chance that NDSU moved to the MVC, I assume the new group-think here would be that the Summit would not be a good fit for UND anymore right?
Prefer Big Sky now. Would prefer Big Sky then.
however, if UND is in the Summit, prefer that NDSU is still there
and... don't think NDSU is going anywhere. doubt they get an invitation (other than the rumor of UNI support, who else would want to travel to Fargo). plus, the Summit (NCC 2.0) is actually looking like a stable and competitive conference.
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Here's an off-the-wall thought...
What about Omaha? They have Creighton's market and the best RPI in the Summit.
Didn't you (Sioux Volley) say that Belmont would be a front-runner if the MVC had an opening?
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Shouldn't head coach compensation also be reflective of the staff and team's community and campus involvement? It seems that football has raised the bar on this since Coach Schweigert has lead the program. How does the bb staff and team stack up in involvement, both in the community and on campus, including support of the other UND athletic teams? Asking cuz I don't know.
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Since Jones & Co earned a substantial raise following the success of the MBB team (at least according to the current sentiment on this forum), the budget cuts should go beyond the original amount. Say at least an extra $100K, making it prudent to cut $1.4 to 1.5 MM.
Another thought after reading the article... conference considerations and bringing a Title IX consultant in probably means that S & D will survive. Does the Title IX concern mean that another men's team is being considered, since UND is already over-weighted toward women's sports? Or is it to insure that dropping WIH does not bring Title IX scrutiny?
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If UND can abandon the Big Sky, they can certainly justify dropping WIH.
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Ben Jacobson
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According to ESPN, Jake's contract has been extended thru 2027 (two more years). Reports were that his last extension in 2015 was for $900,000 per year. This extension must put him at $1 Million or more a year. Congrats Coach.