Frozen4sioux
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Dean French hangs it up at South-Shanley.
https://www.inforum.com/sports/prep/fargo-south-shanley-boys-hockey-coach-dean-french-steps-down
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5 minutes ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said:
Would Pecknold be an upgrade to Berry? I’m asking honestly. He’s done something special at Quinnipiac.
No.
He's a
CharlieUnicornNovemberTango
of a person.
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Eero Butella
Saw some of this kids play for Chicago Mission this year, think he's already committed to Northeastern but maybe a flip or a portal get later.
Don't know his situation but,
Great shot, compete level good poise on the ice... hes one to watch.
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On 3/28/2023 at 1:13 PM, nodak651 said:
Dino's! We want to be inclusive at UND, right?!
To that thought, we could have a special game with football helmets that have different dinosaurs on them similar to how Navy had different helmets for each position group.
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This should 100% happen at UND.
Theme ideas would be:
Local post-game re-hydration establishments.
Pre Game Eats.
Notable local attractions.
Regularly closed Interstates and Hiways
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The TeamND competitiveness vs full time Tier1 teams is always an interesting conundrum.
This year they beat the full time Power program for Nationals berths...
Clearly, nobody expected that to happen. At the national level it's just a whole different monster playing uber high end teams that play disciplined team structure.
So question is IF the TeamND played a 60 game Tier1 schedule... how would they fair?
How would the roster look? Stronger? Would it be a better team?
Would the kids who leave have stayed?
Would the ones who played have committed and been able to stomach the schedule and expense?
It's a huge double edged sword.
The reality is a ND based Tier1 team of only ND players in theory can and would compete with the top in the Nation
But that's a fantasy to assume the top 20 14 or 15 or 16 year old kids could or would commit to the time expense and life change of Tier1 hockey.
ND high school hockey would be changed for sure but I'm not in the camp that Tier1 would "kill" ND HS.
It may actually solve some of the inequality issues..
who knows.
Bottom line is... its great to see the success the TeamND kids did have this year and I know they did impress nationally
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On 3/27/2023 at 7:22 PM, Siouxperfan7 said:
That certainly would not look out of place on the black helmets
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1 hour ago, AJS said:
Heard both made the team. That would be big news having 2 North Dakota guys on the NTDP.
Hearing the same,
Good on them.
Oneil kid has been the best '07 and frankly probably '06 in ND through Squirts PW Bantam HS up until he left for AAA.
Heck of a kid and hockey player.
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8 hours ago, iramurphy said:
Crater and Benny have both outlined major challenges. The school enrollments increase the chance of alumni with the resources and the interest in intercollegiate athletics. The power 5 schools especially the Big10 have an advantage of larger enrollments, but league revenues that make it easier for donors funds to be diverted to NIL use rather than day to day operating expenses. Those schools are more likely to have corporate/big business/wealthy alumni.
UND has loyal and generous alumni. We have alums and supporters on this forum donating hundreds, thousands and in some cases tens of thousands each year to UND athletics. We have alumni donating millions but mostly those go to the Alumni foundation for endowments,,building projects or scholarships.
UND hockey has one key donor that has been extremely generous over the years having given well over $100,000,000. The Engelstad Foundation continues their very generous support. Many of the other schools have multiple million dollar donors who support athletics.
I wouldn’t know what their thoughts are regarding NIL.
Regardless of their interest,I believe if is in UND’s best interest to coordinate the creation of a fund including a management team, to insure everything is done legally and in compliance with NCAA guidelines in order to maintain the athletes eligibility and keep UND in compliance. A creation of a coalition of businesses and organizations willing and able participate in reimbursement to athletes for their endorsements etc. needs a central coordination team that can assist UND staff and donors in directing these resources where they are needed.
In addition to the big schools, metro areas and league resources we shouldn’t overlook the number of east coast school alumni in large law firms, the financial world including Wall Street. I was at a Memorial Day picnic with my daughter and son-in-laws friends. The host was a former BC player making millions per year. His Dad, also a former BC player is a hedge fund guy. Among their friends is a former Quinnipiac player also making millions each year who spent around $50,000,000 last year on a boat. The smaller private schools seem to have a large number of the mega wealthy. These are 2 schools who can generate millions from just 2 families who support hockey.
Its a bit of a mess because the NCAA is reacting instead of leading.
My thought would be to get a group of hockey alumni together to form a subcommittee for hockey. Many have made a few million to ten or more million. They can challenge each other for a $10,000 or more commitment from those who can and then coordinate their support with the Engelstad Foundation. The next step would be coordinating present support from folks like us with UND athletics, and businesses or organizations interested in NIL relationships.
Football is our other sport with strong alumni support. Form a FB subcommittee to initiate a fund and attempt to establish an on going relationship with key Alumni like Marc Chipman, Tip Enebak, Dave Fennell and gauge their interest.
Once these sub committees are formed and initial funds raised, UND can continue to coordinate and direct resources from the rest of us who can contribute $50 or $50,000 etc.I believe Hockey and FB could take the lead, coordinate organizational structure etc. and how to coordinate support for UND athletics. I believe these subcommittees can be the blueprint for what we do with other sports.
You attorneys can tell me if it won’t work. I’m not sure it is viable but I believe we need to be doing something. UND may already be working on this and may be way ahead of my goofy ideas.Lots of good thought here, shows knowledge of issue for sure.
Once of the most realistic issues UND (and most all other universities) will have is something you elude to... UND NIL collectives will compete with the Alumni Association, the REA, the foundations, and UND itself for the monies that are out there and available. (sports will compete against other sport too)
So a fair question is; How supportive, really supportive, is the University, the Alumni Association, and the Athletic Department going to be in the existence of the collectives.
So far the "wait and see" attitude seems to be the messege.
That's not going to be sustainable, but I fear UND is hoping the NCAA can reign in the demon and at this point, that's not possible.
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20 hours ago, MafiaMan said:
You at 1-2 beers and that bozo at 30-35 are two entirely different beasts.
30-35?...
So Noon.
You just had to say "at noon"
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23 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:
Maybe @Frozen4sioux can explain this away? Without calling me stupid this time.
I was hoping you would go out and find this HEADLINE to try and "dunk" on it., because I knew you wouldn't understand the situation or how it relates to the overall topic.
Basically someone who knows absolutely nothing about the topic,
....and doesn't read details...
would actually think there something to this extreamly recent, ongoing, presently unlitigated and toothless attempt by the NCAA to regulate the NIL landscape
Hint: It doesn't.
It was meaningless and toothless and literally spells out how not to conduct the activity vs stopping the activity.
This case also has nothing to do with anything you've tried to pretend to know about the NIL landscape.
What you and everyone needs to understand is that.
NIL will be, and IS the most influential and landscape altering aspect of college athletics for the remainder of the NCAAs existence.
It's never going to not be an issue in the college athletics world again.
Nothing can stop it.
It is a major factor right now in the recruiting landscape of college hockey.
Combined with the portal it's never going to be a non issue again.
Having your head ignorantly in the sand isn't going to change that.
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6 minutes ago, burd said:
I'm willing to believe that since I will be the first to admit ignorance on the issue. But if NIL involves the use of the player's name, image or likeness for marketing purposes, how can that marketing effort generate dollars if the marketplace doesn't care much about the name or image being used?
You'll probably have to explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old, as Denzel Washington would say.
The collectives are not necessarily sport specific per say.... they sure could be.... if they wanted them to be.
So if Money is needed for the Hockey program to land a YUUGE 1st rounder or 5.... or the WBB team needs that superstar...
The available pool of money from huge donor and alumni bases... money could be, and is used, through the collective.... to get that athlete paid.
"Through their NIL"
It's not the money thay may make from selling some posters or doing a few commercials or running a hockey camp.
Its the money they will be given, funneled through sales of posters and a commercial if they commit.
The things these monies are
"not supposed to be used for"
and
"what it's used for"
are not the same. No matter what the NCAA wants to try and control.
The "regulations" in NIL are being viewed as the speed limit is viewed on I-94.
When it was 65.
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3 minutes ago, CarpeRemote said:
LOL, the NCAA will save us, you are two years behind. For the millionth time, the NCAA is powerless, the Supreme Court > NCAA.
Without facing facts and UND getting on board we are the Big 10’s farm team.
This is accurate.
This cat is out of the NCAA's bag. They have zero control.
They can try and corral it but precedent has been set in the United States SUPREME COURT precedent.
.... but some fool on ss.com says hockey not popular so it's not an issue. yikes
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Just now, fightingsioux4life said:
Really? It is a FACT that hockey at B1G schools is not held with anything close to the regard that MBB and FB are. Sometimes I think even WBB may rank higher than hockey if their women's team is doing really well. There is not a thing I posted that was off-the-wall or out of bounds. Our program will NOT fade into the past and be relegated to mid-major status. Neither will the NCHC.
Ya know that meme of the dragon show where the ginger freak sez something like ...
"You know nothing Jon Snow"...?
You are Jon, on this subject.
You don't even know what matters in your own argument.
Hint: Hockey "popularity" vs other sports has nothing to do with the issue.... Zero, Zilch, Nada...
Nothing.
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15 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:
Nope. I’ll be getting text messages from people I haven’t heard from since 2003.
To be fair ... its hard to text with a meth pipe in one hand and stabbing stick in the other.
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2 hours ago, burd said:
Since college hockey is such a niche sport, NIL ought to have less impact, though a larger media market like Mpls-Stp that is hockey-centric certainly should have a big advantage over UND or even DU, simply from a marketing standpoint.
And don't try to say I'm wrong. A girl gets tired of being wrong all the time.
It's not about the "Hockey Market" it's the overall pool of what's available to offer.
This is where the B1G will dominate... strike that...
IS DOMINATING down into the world of NCAA hockey.
You have to understand it's not a "hockey market" issue or a "niche sport" issue.
It's a volume and alumni base available issue.
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5 hours ago, Cratter said:
If not already, there's going to be thousands and thousands of these transactions. Some publicly. Most not.
And we are only at the tip of the iceberg.
4 hours ago, Cratter said:Add in new transfer rules and its not your dads college hockey anymore.
Bingo.
It easy to tell who is knowledgeable about what's actually happening in the recruiting world right now and who.... absolutely isn't.
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9 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:
All this NIL talk is pure conjecture. FB and MBB will probably land the lion's share of deals since those sports have a much higher profile than hockey. Also, except for the Goofs, hockey ranks #3 at best (sometimes lower) at B1G schools.
The NCHC wasn't going to be #1 every year forever (that is just not realistic), but some people on this forum already have us being relegated to mid-major status from now on. I think that is alarmist. NIL is something UND boosters should take seriously, but it isn't the end all and be all some people think it is. The NCAA will likely introduce rules and regulations on NIL in the future, which will change things again. Let's focus on rebooting our program and less on things we cannot control.
Holy Christ its the opposite of Jason Bourne mentality here.
If I looked up
"Holy Mother of Mary I have no gaddamn clue what the Eff I'm talking about".... in the dictionary.
This post would be the definition.
WOW
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10 hours ago, petey23 said:
I had a couple Gopher fan friends reach out to me to see if I knew where they could maybe find some tickets. I told them I would look for them because I did not want them to see that Facebook page because of the Embarrassment by Association....Thankfully I did discover over the last couple days that Minnesota has a facebook page as well with a similar cringe factor.
Did kid yourself... gopher fans are still gopher fans and have a massive cross section folks that couldn't light a fire with a bucket of gas and a blowtorch.
2 hours ago, Wilbur said:Is there a winner at the end of this?
I mean the SCSU people hate us, like love our misery....and the gophers are....the gophers....
I'm watching as a college hockey fan....
But lets be honest Gopher fans after getting a 6th would be way way WAY less obnoxious, and arrogant than the Saint cloud fans after their 1st.
... and less methy
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5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
Wear these and "birth" (specifically the precursor to it) won't be a concern.
In the Navy they call those "BCs" <-- birth control glasses.
Still have mine.
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37 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
I'm going to get fileted and deboned for it by @MafiaMan but what the heck ...
I don't mind it (but change the shoulder patches).
100% that thing causes birth defects.
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11 hours ago, Kevin G said:
PairWise would have Harvard as a slight favorite (PWR 7 vs PWR 9), while KRACH has OSU as a slight favorite (9 vs 11).
Possibly the most evenly matched regional semifinal game this year.
6 hours ago, St Patrick said:Probably true.
There HAS to be a solid upset in the first round of the tournament. Colgate, you will beat Michigan tonight (and then get pounded by Penn St.)!
uufda
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1 minute ago, Cratter said:
Is this why we are finally starting to see the Big Ten so quickly and easily rise to dominance after the NIL was passed.
Pure coincidence?
There is no such thing as a coincidence.....
------------Socrates
.....probably.
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25 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:
I wouldn't want to risk NCAA sanctions, so I think we better do this 100% above board.
Obviously I mean om sure every program not rhyming with Schmichigan is completely on the level...
wait what rhymes with EveryrealD1collegefootballteamontheplanet
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5 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:
I like this idea, but UND cannot be involved in it (NCAA rule).
no of course not... not involved at all...
2022-23 ND High School Hockey
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And I could make a real argument for an 8th too.....
Dang good team they had there.