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You clearly are not comprehensibly reading, nor truthfully considering, the issue. I’ve already addressed your concerns with previous comments. I said “we all need to look ourselves in the mirror“, but it still ultimately is not our job. It is OK to recognize and acknowledge that the University of North Dakota staff needs to do better (a lot better) with outreach and recognition.

Petty counter-argument, taking everything out of context.

I disagree, and you’re just not seeing it. Your blind followers on here don’t see it either, but they believe you, so try not lead them off a cliff. What I am referencing? UND athletic department, Alumni Association, and Champions Club are all absolutely ignoring people. They are not doing their job, or at least they are subpar at it. And sure, I do agree that we all need to look in the mirror to fix it, but that shouldn’t be the case; the folks paid to get the job done should be doing it. Instead, we get the constant rhetoric on here that we should step up and fix it ourselves.

Results matter; and again, the truth hurts, especially on this forum, evidently. Ol’ fashioned complacency, and long time supporters oblivious to the underlying collapse from within. With all that said, I’m hopeful for a 180.

Results matter. What you’re saying sounds good on the surface, but it just doesn’t correlate with reality. Relatively speaking, UND athletics staff is not out-working the competition, which is what matters. It’s not just quantity of hours, but quality. And there’s several potential donors that UND fails to connect with, possibly because they share your perspective that they should avoid certain “criticizers” and, ironically, they perhaps rush to judgment too quickly. Looking at what UND does is quickly skewed if you fail to recognize the competition and what other regional institutions are doing.

Honestly, you could review this forum and in just 10 minutes have a list of 10+ tangible solutions. The issue is not that there is a lack of ideas or concepts, but rather that the leaders at the University of North Dakota currently are lazy, or so it appears that way. They are not looking to work above and beyond, but rather keep UND at the status quo. Alternatively, there are hidden agendas a play, keeping UND football behind where they should be.

If “done correctly” is the key statement here. It hasn’t been figured out since Englestad’s $100M gift. Basically, since then, it’s been spite all other athletic programs for hockey.

The cash cow is the state of ND, not hockey. You think hockey runs the show? Not. The issue is the politics and influences it has on Chaves and the administration in regards to their priorities.

True. Have to have donors demand excellence and funds matter. ultimately, I think we’re saying close to the same thing and we understand there needs to be more administrative leadership (vision) and also backing from the supporters (donors). This is perhaps obvious but it just isn’t at the level needed for UND football to take the next step

We can agree to disagree. You’re just repeating your same old argument, also, which I adamantly disagree with. At the FCS level, you’re not going to have a lucrative funding model with a bunch of revenue. That’s reserved for FBS football with large stadiums. Bottom line, collegiate athletics requires major investment/funding to begin with, and is not typically a huge return on the investment, especially in ND. Large football and basketball programs certainly do produce a lot of revenue for the NCAA and their respective institutions, no question, but those programs aren’t in North Dakota. Hockey has a return because there was a huge investment in the form of a gift from the Engelstads. It would only be a surprise if an $100M gift *did not* produce some revenue.

UND with greater revenue than NDSU, yet the two football programs are on completely different levels. Again, my previous post holds true. UND and UND athletics are not allocating nearly enough to football. Remember, hockey hockey hockey, !@#$ !@#$ !@#$!

Spot on, UND football is (unfortunately) not the priority and hasn’t been since the Engelstad foothold circa late 1990s / early 2000s. This ship needs to be righted. President Kennedy attempted to fix it, as he clearly identified it, but was booted. Chaves (and apparently Armacost) aren’t even attempting to bite the hand that feeds them. Cowards, and a poor prognosis for UND football, unless donors like those on this board rise up and state otherwise with our words and our wallets.

Nice locker room could give you several good safeties, whereas paying a player might give you 1-2 seasons of good safety play (more likely only 1 season given transfer rules). There’s no question that the infrastructure for UND football needs to improve, and thankfully phase 2 is underway. As for NIL collective, it’s also important, no question, and should be looked at closely since UND finally seems to have the locker room/meeting room issue under construction.

You’ll be okay

Nope. Excited that UND might actually win some big games

@SiouxBoys is all about that mediocrity

Cool man

I’d prefer players in the top 10. Bubba ball is mediocre U Excited to see what Danny can do when he gets his shot to lead

Nah … night game on blue turf would be better, but either way, should be a fun trip. Would be all the better if Bubba and UND could win the damn thing

Yeah, good luck winning with the old fashioned “we’re a team and not individuals” talk in this era of name, image, and likeness and the transfer portal. Your top talent will just transfer out. Names on the back of the jerseys isn’t a huge issue, but not a problem at all if we decided to put the last name on the jerseys

With the uniform talk, I’ll just forward this here. Simple is better, green jerseys, white pants, but don’t over do it. As for road, I actually prefer white tops and black pants, but white on white ain’t bad either. Go back to circa ~2007 for best look.

Silver would be sh*t. Needs to be black or white

Yes. Your “one ranking” was obviously flawed.

Ouch

Would be very surprised if the Huskers and Rhule let him leave.