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I’m very confident, but not certain, that Danny could do (and will do) a better job than “toe to toe” Bubba. Nice guy, but not a great head coach.

Not a done deal, but happening. It’s all but a formality. I don’t know what the sum agreed upon is, but hopefully $10M plus.

Correct. Where is UND football gonna find that $10+ M donation?

If UND loses, goes to 6-5, I’d fully expect an end of the season Bubba press conference: “the guys tried really hard this season, and we’re happy”. On to 2024, extensions for everyone. Let’s just hope UND wins. They likely will (I hope), but still get screwed somehow by NCAA FCS playoff committee.

But they’re the “2023 Mountain West preseason favorite” Boise State football team … never mind anyone with an ounce of football-sense could see they were a mediocre team and yet UND still pissed themselves out in Boise under Bubba’s lead …

Yes, it’s complicated and difficult, but champions behave like champions well before they are champions. If the University of North Dakota football program is going to ascend to a championship level, then championship-level type of decisions need to be made. Let’s see how the next week or two plays out.

Hunter has a valid opinion, and I agree Kostich as an individual is a good special teams coach. With that said, Hunter’s opinion does not change what @SIOUXFAN97 states about the program; the wins/losses and playoff performances have been underwhelming over the past 10 years. Both Hunter’s opinion and the program not performing well-enough can be true (and in my opinion, are true).

You hit an obvious (but good) point. When the season is over, what will the current players say is the reason this team failed to capture the momentum and capitalize after the NDSU win? That inside perspective will be most valuable for Chaves … A debrief, or end-of-season review, as you’d say.

Shawn Kostich is a good coach. He’s not the issue with the program. The “leaders” of this program aren’t getting the job done, so we all know who’s been deficient in that regard.

You’re right, we’ll never know what would’ve happened if DeBoer was hired by UND in 2014, but hard to imagine Eastern Michigan in 2014 was a significantly better position than HC at UND. He still made his way to big time as an undefeated coach for Washington despite going to Eastern Michigan (1-7 in the MAC in 2014) … he’s an absolute program-builder. Point is, shoot for the stars. Go for a program-building superstar who wants to be a FBS head coach in 5-10 years.

at this point just win … then we can talk about looking pretty

you’re not privy

I don’t think this fan forum is used to make any decisions, so let’s move on from that silly theory right now. This fan forum, however, can be used to sample and discuss the opinion and perspective of alumni and fans who really care. Perhaps some even speak with dollars, i don’t know, based on anonymity. But again, this is all just discussion amongst people who care and follow UND athletics very closely; much closer than your “average” fan.

The trends of the program are well-established at this point.

These two points are not clear-cut or inarguably. But it’s been expanded on ad nauseam, so I think it’s not worth getting into too much again. I will just say having fans who want UND to do better than they’ve been doing is important, but simply just attending games won’t be sufficient to help the program by itself. Donations ($) will help, along with a proactive, aggressive athletic department. What is the current overall philosophy of fans and the athletic department? That will extrapolate towards success or lack thereof on the football field.

Since apparently no one is happy (or content?), what will be done to incite change? Extend the status quo? Pretty sure anyone from any background can tell you that is not the solution, but yet what was done in 2021? What will be done in 2023? I suspect the “easy button” (i.e., the inexpensive option) was engaged back in 2021/2022, but that can’t be done the second time around for Chaves.

I think 3-4 or 4-3 is fine. Defense did fine yesterday. Offense scored 0 points, and was the problem. But no question defense has been the issue several other times this season. It’s not base alignment (4-3 or 3-4) that’s the issue in my opinion, but more so coaching of fundamentalism. Missed tackles, too many yards on long-distance downs, which are typically favorable (2nd and long, 3rd and long, etc), mistimed penalties (PI, roughing the passer) on critical downs, etc.

Without disclosing too much, up to this point, he’s chosen to not address it (one way or the other). This dates back to 2018. That’s fine, probably not something to comment on. I’m certainly not single-handedly providing any buyout, so again, that is fair.

Honestly, with the current facilities, and soon to come online future facilities, and if the salaries can be improved slightly, UND football would be a very attractive job. This is true even for coaches with no ties to UND previously.

No question. Honestly, can’t put any weight towards UND ties, with 2013 being the prime example of why.

Sure, but what does UND have to do to get to #1? How long must we wait? What concrete changes must be made so that UND can realistically reach #1 status? Trajectory over the past decade has not been getting to #1, but rather plateauing as top 25 program.

Yes. I don’t know any details of the contract, as far as options for buyout or void years. https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/college/und-signs-football-coach-bubba-schweigert-to-two-year-extension-through-2025#:~:text=GRAND FORKS — UND football coach,Chaves said in a statement.

Great names, but UND has only won one national championship ever. There has been, and will continue to be, opportunities for greater success. Need to always pursue greater excellence and not become complacent (which is where I think the program and department currently is). UND ties certainly should not be a prerequisite or preferred criteria in hiring process; it limits the ability to find (and ultimately hire) the best candidate in moving UND football forward to unprecedented success. Again, see and learn from 2013 process.

You’re probably correct, but it’s unfortunate. Again, big picture-wise, this program has regressed some since NDSU win. Chaves and boosters better realize that; unlikely UND even beats NDSU if they play again this season, or next season when UND plays in FargoDome.