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Amen. So many opportunities for an awesome suspense-building video board entrance … did the crew wake up and actually try this year ??

Game Day! It’s a great day to go 1-0! #LGH!

Again, it’s about probability, not possibility. I’m not arguing that 2-2 rules out 9-2 from a possibility standpoint, because, well, that’s just not factual; but it’s not probable UND will go 9-2 if they start 2-2. They likely go 8-3 best case scenario, then, which would make things challenging in playoffs. At this point, let’s just see what happens. Arguing with you and others is overall pointless. It’s about what UND does on the field. Hopefully they’re prepared, mentally and physically. Hopefully Bubba has yielded his best squad yet, but only time will tell. As I posted earlier, I would be absolutely thrilled with 9-2 as a final record, but starting 2-2 is unlikely to accomplish that. “I’ll continue to believe 2-2 still gives us the opportunity to have a great year.. to beat NDSU and a deep playoff run. As I said earlier.. I’ll have a different opinion if we start out 3-3.” — UND won’t have a deep playoff run if they can’t beat Boise and/or SDSU.

1) No, actually, my argument seems to go way over your head. 2) Schlossman’s article argues UND needs to beat good teams (Boise, SDSU and/or NDSU) in order to get a seed and play more home playoff games. It doesn’t mention 2-2 vs 3-3. Mathematically, 2-2 can still allow UND to get to 9-2, but probability-wise, that won’t happen. UND will almost certainly go 8-3 at best, and if the 3 losses are to Boise, SDSU, and NDSU, then there won’t be a seed and, as such, will be less playoff games. “So it is reasonable to not throw the season in the trashcan if we start out 2-2 whereas I will be quite disappointed if we start 3-3.” -- I adamantly disagree with this. It’s not about possibility, but rather probability. UND needs to knock off either SDSU or Boise. Otherwise, beating both NDSU and @UNI will be nearly impossible, for several reasons, including loss of confidence due to 2 game losing streak early in season. 3) as for “In order to get a home playoff seed we need to start knocking off teams that we would have historically lost to.”, that’s the point I made well in advance of this article coming out, Schlossman’s point aligns with mine, and now you’re coming out acting like I “struggle” with the very point I originally made. 4) bottomline, we as UND fans all want UND to start winning big games consistently and ultimately give us the opportunity to watch home playoff games and eventually travel to Frisco in January. I won’t support an argument that tries to make light of UND losing 2 games in a row, including 1 of those games being a conference game.

So your advisor was indirectly an Oppenheimer disciple … it’s all coming together now …

I want (and also think it is necessary in order to take the next step as a program) UND to start beating the top programs in the country. Why not start this season? All UND fans should want that, and I suspect that they do. Although I individually can’t force that into existence, I sure as hell know the masses can if everyone is on the same page.

Jeez … now I need to add slow dancing to the goddamn list

“The Fighting Hawks are scheduled to play an FBS game on the road against Mountain West favorite Boise State as well as games against No. 1 South Dakota State and No. 2 North Dakota State. If UND does not pull an upset in any of those, a seed is likely out of the picture — even if it happens to run the table with its other eight games. No three-loss teams were seeded last season.” @Sioux94: you shouldn’t have tried to rephrase or reinterpret this article, because by doing that you’ve started a possible pissing match (even with an empty disclaimer). Going 3-3 would definitely not be a good thing for UND, as the article states, but going 2-2 isn’t going to help either or guarantee anything - which is my point. Some of you goons will contest anything just to argue pointlessly. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll easily see why there isn’t a huge difference between 2-2 and 3-3. Going 2-2 puts UND in a situation where they have to beat NDSU and win all their other road games, which is going to be incredibly challenging and unlikely based on what Bubba’s program has shown over the past decade. Losing to the powers (Boise, SDSU, NDSU) and going 3-3 means UND won’t get playoff seed, and that means less home playoff games, which are certainly needed for Bubba’s program to do anything considered monumental in 2023. Going 2-2 means UND is likely going to also miss a seed, because they will have to beat both NDSU and @UNI. NDSU’s dynasty has feasted on home playoff games. So, once again, UND needs to start playing (and beating) the big boys or else UND needs new “big boy” leadership. Your misinterpretation of the article and my comments are noted … again.

Separate point, but SUU nearly beat Arizona State yesterday. Lost 24-21. Of course, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades (and thermonuclear war - @The Sicatoka).

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/college/commentary-und-football-has-to-walk-a-narrow-path-if-it-wants-to-make-a-deep-playoff-run great article by Schlossman highlighting points I previously posted on here; if UND can’t upset a power like Boise, SDSU or NDSU, then making a playoff run is unlikely. Hence, if UND starts 2-2 (and doesn’t pull a big win against Boise or SDSU), then I expect this to be another plateau season going 0-1 or 1-1 in the post-season; highlighting the need for leadership change. Beat Boise or SDSU, and show us (and more importantly the playoff committee) that Bubba’s program has actually made progress since 2016 and not plateaued. Hopefully 2023 will be fun year

Thanks, you’re both so wonderful.

Now this is pure gold.

Not “all of us” or everyone, but certainly more than you.

They don’t deserve playoff bid based on embarrassment against Missouri. USD as a playoff team would be a disgrace to FCS football, but, I suppose, they can improve. I would rather they suck all year, though, personally.

You’ll be waiting a really, really long time if you’re hoping NDSU is going to regress so that UND can catch up. It’s not going to happen this year or in the near future. Simply put, they know football down there (coaches are competent) and they have the resources and support to keep reloading. In GF/UND, it’s an uphill battle year after year just to remind folks there are more (and better) sports out there than just ice hockey. Bubba and UND need to ascend and reach NDSU’s level, not the other way around.

Ha ha ha !

Danny Freund is good coach. He’s the coach of the future (and present) as of now. Just my opinion at this point …

What an awesome schedule. And maybe still a senior QB on the roster! 2023 should be great, and 2024 even better?!

Would be nice to get the “Saint” back in Kelly Green (and on the sideline).

Not sure on that one. NDSU is a top 3 program, year in and year out. Idaho went 7-5 last year, but before that was a losing program nearly every season. I get the favoritism for Idaho by some since Luke Schleusner is the OC, but c’mon now, let’s be reasonable.

All you gentle, fragile souls will be okay. May I perhaps suggest competitive ballroom dance as an alternative sport for ya’ll? @90siouxfan @Teeder11 @UND1983 - Best wishes to you all. Now, back to football. Go Hawks!

If UND starts actually winning the games, then this board will be a hoot. I’m all for it if that happens.

Bazinga! Damn that’s clever!

Wannabe? Ha! My life is certainly very fulfilled (and verified) without your lifeless accreditation. (Oh, and great comeback.)