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semi finalist for UND football head coaching position in 2013 now to be hired as head coach of power 5 conference team, University of Washington Huskies. point of this, don’t hire hometown familiarities, hire the best coach, that’s it. Missed opportunity as far as I’m concerned. https://www.inforum.com/3066035-und-narrows-its-coaching-search-two-candidates https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/sources-fresno-states-kalen-deboer-in-talks-to-become-uw-huskies-head-football-coach/%3famp=1

That was a nice one, good job. I’ll Venmo you $5

Doesn’t change that those are !@#$ programs in a !@#$ conference. My point, not to be taken literal which apparently some on here can’t help themselves, was that UND is underachieving compared to the field of teams. Want to be precise; than look at the MVFC teams; I expect UND to do better than SIU, USD and even UNI on a consistent basis.

Please expand on your thoughts? Since you think you know so damn much, I’ll bite on your ongoing criticisms of individuals even though we all want the best for UND: do you think Southern Illinois and South Dakota should be getting in ahead of UND consistently? How about UNI? Is UND a better program than them? Or maybe we’ll just settle with Davidson and SH, since mentioning them seemed to instantly reveal I’m “unintelligent”… Again, you just can’t make up how labile you are as a poster on this site, even though, again, we all want what is best for UND football.

I thought this thread asked about expectations? I don’t recall any mention in the poll of Bubba Schweigert. But I agree, he’ll be at UND in 2022. Can’t guarantee 2023 but likely he’s here then as well. If anything’s for sure with UND football ,and the lack of $ circulating around the program, change is rare. Fritz Pollard Athletic Center Phase II would be done by now if any $ surplus existed.

Why is seeing what people think useless? Would you prefer dictating your views rather than observing actual numbers? …

What in the actual Sam hell is this? Meth is a hell of a drug …

You like to pick fights and criticize individual posters rather than discuss a damn thing. Do you actually have any tangible thoughts about UND football being successful? 5-6 is not successful. sitting on the outside of the playoff field looking in is not successful, particularly when programs like Sacred Heart and Davidson are getting in before us.

We talk about how bad UND’s offensive line was this fall compared to the spring, and that’s why UND dropped to a losing team, but yet we don’t miss this kid? OL Kyle Hergel is a good player; UND and their losing 2021 team missed him. Speculating otherwise is pure bull$%!#

Expectations met, 7 year extension to current staff ….. ”improvement” shown benefit to inconsistency? Every other year team shows “improvement”

What else should be discussed, then? We can’t talk UND football in the postseason this year because, well, yeah …

U’ND should be a top 10 FCS team every year but they don’t have the proper support. As Saban said in video just posted, no one wants to win more than the players, which I believe is true at UND or anywhere for that matter given how much work goes into it, but I don’t think that is true for UND administrators/athletic department employees. At UND, they only want to win more than anything at hockey, and that’s it. As someone said, “it pays the bills”. Right, so if that is the case, should all other sports be shut down? Would minimize expenditures? Of course not! Invest and grow your damn programs. At UND, any big wins for football or basketball is just extra and not an expectation. There isn’t an expectation to be the best at football or basketball around UND. It is what it is and the culture is messed up.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone This coulda woulda shoulda of particular UND football plays over the course of the disappointing 2021 fall season is depressing. Time to move on. Get better players. Make staff adjustments as necessary. Change the schemes and schedules that didn’t work this year. Get better. Get hungrier (Thanksgiving reference) and desire to be a winning program. Enough with losing. The culture needs to change and why not 2022 to be the year to do it. Go Hawks Football

And here we have exhibit #1 of a “longtime conservative folk around UND” You are a part of the problem, not the solution.

Didn’t say/type that. Pull the stick out of your ass. Just pointing out the consistent issues [of inconsistency] over the last 8 years and there is a common denominator

Hockey is the money maker because it received a significant starter donation and since continues to receive the financial majority year after year. That cycle needs to be interrupted before things change and rationalizing this - like you just did - won’t help a damn thing. In FCS football, with no major television contract revenue like FBS schools have, universities are always dependent on donors to keep things running. UND’s donors are partly brainwashed by the perpetual cycle of hockey investment as per above. This is a major culture issue, in my opinion, that I don’t expect to change anytime soon nor will longtime conservative folks around UND want it to change. It is what it is. And football, basketball, volleyball, etc. success at UND will continue to be largely limited by it until the cycle is broken. you are right in that $ will solve this and if someone stepped up, whether private or organizationally, and donated a significant amount to UND football, then perhaps things would change. But simple donations to the overall athletic department won’t do a damn thing due to the current culture of UND athletics.

I thought that back in 2017 … and 2021… hell, why not 2022?! perpetual state of delusion

Maybe? Who is going to step up with a big check? UND men’s basketball is in fairly shaky spot too as far as financial support goes.

If Greg Hardin “type” was on UND roster, they would be “the guy”. Greg Hardin was a borderline NFL talent (was on Broncos for a brief period). UND should take any player that has that kind of potential; tough to get at FCS level but it happens. Point is, UND always should be looking for good players and Hardin was a top tier FCS talent while at UND. Right now, UND has a couple of those guys in Waletzko (will leave) and Otis Weah. Also some young guys that could develop yet into that. As for receivers specifically, UND has not had a receiver of that caliber since Hardin and Golladay. Toivonen and Wanzek were close.

Sure, they will want that, but over the past decade of college football, in both FBS and FCS, several new coaching staffs have changed the culture and started winning after just a couple seasons.

Absolutely, exactly my point (tough to portray sarcasm on here). Speed is only one small part of being a good receiver. Need guys who can run good routes, catch the ball in traffic, and just have a knack for making clutch catches.

Any coach that takes 3-4 years isn’t a good coach in this day and age of college football. With the right resources, you should be winning after a couple years. Only counter argument to a coach not turning it around that fast would be lack of institutional support, i.e., need better facilities, equipment, etc.

You’re right, we should only recruit high school athletes with the word “burner” in their Twitter bio. UND has some capable players, but can always get better players; that’s no secret.

Are we not completing deep passes because receivers can’t separate or because Schuster can’t get it there? Probably a combination of both. UND has some receivers that can run: Belquist, Boltmann, Wright, Cochran. New recruit coming in from Missouri fits that category. Feeney is better athlete and has stronger arm, so that should answer your question. The major thing holding him back to start over Schuster is decision-making; we haven’t seen Feeney in a live 4 quarter DI game, so hard to know until live bullets are flying.

Understood. Let’s support the program, hope for a great 2022 season. Obviously, if 2022 does not go according to plan, big picture changes need to be considered. I suspect UND will be better in 2022, but how they do against NDSU or do in the playoffs, I am not as confident. Again, regression to the mean with our current sample size (8 seasons with Bubba’s program).