Brent_Bobyck

Doesn't matter to me. I ended up hoisting an intramural basketball championship trophy over my head! Holla.

I don't agree with this kind of information being on a message board when it is a potentially serious subject like this. I vote for this thread to be erased.

Not everyone would like to show up to REA 2 hours before game time. This idea eliminates having to sit outside when it is 20 below and then sitting another hour in your seats just to make sure no one takes them. This will provide some order to a mess of a student ticket situation. Take the University of Minnesota. They alternate their student season tickets as well. You can buy season tickets to either all of the Friday night games or all of the Saturday. I know that you can buy both nights but it gets to be very spendy. UND's plan is better because you can still see the game live both nights, but just not in the same seat. I would rather be in the arena for both games than do what Minnesota does and see one in person and watch the other at a bar.

I disagree. This gives more people the opportunity to sit in the lower bowl instead of the same people over and over again. There are more than just 600 students at UND, and if a student would like the opportunity to sit in the lower bowl, then this is their opportunity. It is not about overcomplicating the issue, it is about giving everyone an opportunity to experience college hockey at its finest.

Are you crazy? Gary Thorne is the best play-by-play in hockey, if not sports.

Getting back to football. I skipped a 9th grade basketball tryout just to go tailgate before a Sioux Bison football game at Memorial Stadium. I will be honest, I was about as good at basketball as Mark Mangino is at figure skating but it still was a lot to give up for a football game. If I could go back, I would do it again in a heart beat for another Saturday at good 'ole Memorial Stadium.

Why are you reading the Williston Paper? Did you lose the web address to the Lakota Times?

This is a little off subject but still a great memory. How about back at the Old Ralph when you could stomp on the little Coke cups after games and it would echo throughout the building. If you were gutsy you would step up to the Large cups for a deeper sounding echo. Good Stuff. Also how about the mats underneath the bleachers at Hyslop. They would stack them underneath there during games and all the little kids, including a young Brent Bobyck, would jump around in them. Doing so was risking getting in trouble by the 7'7" (seemed like it at that age) bald campus cop. What is his name? He has been there forever. Times were much better when you were a kid. Didn't have to go to work and your parents would pay for your season tickets!

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I agree, Memorial Stadium is great for football. I loved the Sioux Bison games when it would be 10 below zero. I couldn't feel my toes or fingers but I still managed to have a wonderful time. During halftime they would let people down on the sidelines to warm up by the heaters behind the Sioux bench. Good times.

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Dean Blais resigned late in the summer too. Is there something about this time of year that would make it the right time to leave? Obviously the offseason, but something with the recruiting timeline or something?

I also have to throw in my favorite player......Brent Bobyck. He would say it fast, similar to how he pronounces Zajac.

My favorite is Justin Duuuuuuuuuuuuberman. He played way back in the old Ralph. A close second is the Hoooooooooogsteen bros. What are yours?

These are just a few articles I found saying that people across the country are moving back downtown and the condo market is taking off at an alarming rate. Obviously GF is not a big city like Milwaukee, Cleveland or Atlanta but the idea of living downtown, no matter how big the city, is still trendy. I would consider myself "the next generation" and I would love to live downtown GF or Minneapolis or Omaha or Fargo. I could careless about the "big back yard" and things of that nature. I will think differently when I have kids but for now, downtown would be great.

Reversing suburban flight, families move back downtown Loft apartment in downtown Atlanta This article is part of a companion series to "Sprawl America," a look at suburban growth airing nightly this week on CNN at 8 p.m. EST. Web posted at: 11:21 p.m. EST (0421 GMT) ATLANTA (CNN) -- Fed up with grueling commutes, more and more people are moving from the suburbs back into downtown areas, fueling a residential rebirth in cities like Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas and Denver. "I was spending three hours a day in traffic, and it just got unbearable," said Atlanta resident Kathy Holland. That was when she lived in the suburbs, 20 miles out. Now her commute is just a 15-minute walk to work. She and her husband became some of the city's first urban dwellers in 50 years when they moved downtown two years ago. "We don't want to go back to the suburbs," said Holland. "In fact, we looked at some outlying areas a mile from here, and we said, 'That's too far out,' because then I'd have to get in my car and go to work and right now I don't have to." In fact, she hasn't driven her car in over a month. In Atlanta, prices for downtown lofts have doubled in the last three years. Old buildings are being converted into new living spaces, and many loft buildings have a waiting list for those looking to buy. Atlanta's downtown now has a population of about a thousand residents, up from about fifty a decade ago. Real estate professionals say downtown living may be an option for some, but there's one crucial drawback. "Right now downtown living is probably not for the young married couple who have got children," said Lewis Glenn of Harry Norman Realtors. "I say that because of the proximity of schools to the downtown area," he said. The Goolsby family But not every family with children is headed for suburbia. Tom and Jennifer Goolsby live in a downtown Atlanta loft with their 2-year-old daughter, Billie. They made their decision for several reasons. "The very idea of spending 10 to 20 percent of my life in an automobile is mind-boggling," said Tom Goolsby. He also thinks raising a toddler in an urban environment is perfectly acceptable and takes Billie to the park to mingle with street musicians. "If the old adage is true -- it takes a village to raise a child -- then here we are in this huge village," Goolsby said. "All these cultures intermingle here -- the black culture, the white culture. Every one of those cultures has a great deal of respect for children, a great deal of respect for mothers." Tom Goolsby and daughter Billie in a nearby park The Goolsbys plan to send Billie to a new downtown school when she's old enough. "Education is a major factor in the hesitation for families to come to downtown areas, because in downtown areas you really do not have a good public education system," said Jag Sheth of Emory University. For now, the Goolsbys are happy having a downtown home with a park for a backyard, right across the street. "I think we have most of what we want," said Tom Goolsby. "We have everything we need."

More people are making downtown home By Alan Achkar PLAIN DEALER REPORTER In a neighborhood where the streets used to feature little more than abandoned warehouses, people are now complaining about a lack of parking. In spots where shattered bottles and beat-up cars dominated the landscape, people are now paying $1,000 a month for a two-bedroom apartment. Downtown Cleveland is becoming more than a place to catch a ballgame. While leaders still frame city service and tax debates in terms of "downtown vs. the neighborhoods," downtown appears to be growing stronger as a neighborhood of its own. The 2000 census counted nearly 4,300 residents in downtown Cleveland, a 23 percent jump from 10 years earlier, when about 3,500 people lived there. Downtown is one of the few neighborhoods in Cleveland that actually added people. The city's overall population dropped by 5 percent between 1990 and 2000. The gains downtown came in a narrow area between the Cuyahoga River and the Inner Belt (around E. 30th St.) And because the census was taken in the spring of 2000, the numbers do not include residents who have moved into downtown in the last year. In fact, 720 apartments are under construction, according to the Downtown Cleveland Partnership. "A lot has happened in a year, and a lot's going to be unfolding in the next few months that will change the numbers," said Lee Hill, head of the partnership, which helps oversee development in the city center. The growth has not come cheaply. Developers have received tax abatements, some for as long as 15 years, for buildings they are renovating. The tax savings have ranged from several hundred thousand dollars to $4 million. The city has also lent millions of dollars to the developers to help jump-start downtown housing. "You need [the financial help] because you're still at the front end of a development cycle," said Tom Yablonsky, head of the Historic Warehouse District Development Corp., a nonprofit group that promotes the area. "The number of people that's possible here is larger than what's already come. We're still setting the table." So who's moving in? The answer starts in the Warehouse District, by far the strongest engine powering the population boost and the place where parking complaints are surfacing. More than 900 people call the district home; most of them were not there 10 years ago, according to the census. "If you're bored living here, it's your own fault," said Marie Manny, who last year moved with her husband, Bill, into the Perry Payne building at Superior Ave. and W. 9th St. "You can walk anywhere. You can do a million things. I gave up my car when we moved here." The Mannys spent 20 years in a four-bedroom house in a small, rural town north of Dayton. They raised two daughters. They learned to fall asleep to the hypnotic chirping of crickets. Then, with Bill considering a new engineering job in Cleveland, they made a trip downtown. Living in the city's core, with easy access to theaters, museums, sporting events and restaurants, suddenly made sense for a couple in their late 40s. Today, they live in a $1,100-a-month, two-bedroom apartment on the fifth floor. They don't miss shoveling snow and mowing a large lawn. And they've learned to fall asleep to the wail of sirens. "We just decided we wanted a lifestyle change," Marie Manny said. "We were too young and too bored to watch corn grow." They are part of the population moving into former industrial warehouses that, starting in the mid-1980s, were gradually transformed into chic apartment buildings. The Warehouse District now boasts 13 apartment buildings. The Mannys are typical of the new arrivals: people looking for a new lifestyle after their kids have left home. The area is also a lure for young professionals who work in the city and don't want to fight highway traffic every morning. There are drawbacks: High parking fees; the daily approaches from panhandlers; the weekend noise and litter from the party crowd. But downtown's new residents are drawn to the historic architecture. They don't mind a short drive to the suburbs to go grocery shopping. And they generally feel safe living in the city center. The same attractions are driving growth in the Gateway District, the area around Jacobs Field and Gund Arena, which added nearly 200 people in the 1990s. A survey last year by Cleveland State University found that 86 percent of the people moving downtown come from outside the city. Many are paying high rents, compared with suburban apartments, for the right to live downtown. They are providing Cleveland with a new wave of middle- to high-income residents, a wave that has typically flowed out of the city. Those residents pay income tax and spend money in city businesses. In the Warehouse District, the average household income is nearly $74,000, according to a 1999 Kent State University survey. "You go to a block club [meeting] in some parts of my ward and people don't have a phone," said Councilman Joe Cimperman, whose ward includes downtown. "You go to a block club in the Warehouse District, and everybody gives you an e-mail address." The total downtown population of 4,300, reached through an analysis by The Plain Dealer and Northern Ohio Data and Information Service, includes people in buildings that have been standing for years, such as Reserve Square apartments on E. 12th St. It also includes homeless shelters and a Cleveland State University dormitory. It does not include the Justice Center, where jail inmates were counted as city residents by census workers. Cleveland leaders have claimed that the Census Bureau undercounted the city's population. The administration of Mayor Michael R. White did not reply to requests for an interview for this story. Yablonsky, with the Historic Warehouse District Development Corp., believes the district's population is closer to 1,200. "A lot of those apartment buildings are totally full," he said. Even if people were missed, Cleveland's gains indicate that the city is following a national trend of growing demand for downtown living. Cleveland's downtown population appears paltry compared with Baltimore (14,000), Chicago (115,000) or Minneapolis (19,000), according to a survey by the Brookings Institution two years ago. But it is surpassing, or keeping pace with, nearby cities such as Columbus (3,800) and Pittsburgh (4,500). Also, the number of rental units in Cleveland far surpasses those in Columbus and Cincinnati. Cleveland leaders think the next step is to create a for-sale market, not just rentals. The Warehouse District development corporation unveiled a master plan last month with the goal of adding 5,000 housing units, including condominiums and townhouses. "Everywhere we go, people say, 'I want to come [downtown], but I want to buy,' " said Hill, of the Downtown Cleveland Partnership. "The question is, what product do they want? And how much are they willing to pay?" Mark Jochum is one Warehouse District apartment dweller who would be tempted to buy a condominium. A lifelong Euclid resident who even served on the City Council for 14 years, Jochum and his wife, Joan, moved to the Bridgeview apartment complex on W. 9th St. a year ago. Their spacious two-bedroom apartment, featuring exposed brick and 90-year-old wooden beams, has an outdoor deck with a stunning view of the Flats. They brought along their 16-year-old daughter, Frances, who attends a nearby private high school. She is in a tiny minority in downtown, where most residents are adults. "Suburban life was really good, but we always told our children to expand your horizons," said Mark Jochum. "We decided to go through a midlife crisis together," Joan Jochum added. "People our age put blinders on. We didn't want to do that."

So am I. There more people that are downtown, the more demand there will be for services and entertainment.