SJHovey

Yeesh, probably worse than expected. According to Jim, even with one win we only have a 25% chance of getting in. https://collegehockeyranked.com/forecast/pwrtournament/ Edit: I might be misinterpreting it. I wonder if we really have a 39% chance (the 14% if we have zero wins and the 25% if we have one win.) This is why I'm not good at math.

I was watching that game on NCHC.tv. While I was hoping it would be disallowed, I wasn't surprised that they counted it. If you see the play from above the net, you clearly see Terry kick at the puck. But you also see the CC defender poke at the puck with his stick, and it appears (at least to my eye) from above the net that the defender's stick hit the puck which then was directed into Terry's skate. I bet if you asked the officials that is exactly what they'd tell you they saw. From a replay that was shot from the corner you could also see that Terry's immediate reaction was to look at the referee and point at the CC player whose stick was between his skate and the puck. You could also see that when the official gave the explanation to the CC bench, their reaction wasn't anger, but more like, "ohh."

I can get them up to 8th. Your Picks Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Canisius defeats Air Force Semifinal #1: Mercyhurst defeats Robert Morris Championship game: Mercyhurst defeats Canisius Big Ten Championship game: Notre Dame defeats Ohio State ECAC Semifinal #2: Harvard defeats Clarkson Semifinal #1: Cornell defeats Princeton Championship game: Harvard defeats Cornell Hockey East Semifinal #2: Northeastern defeats Providence Semifinal #1: Boston College defeats Boston University Championship game: Boston College defeats Northeastern NCHC Semifinal #2: Denver defeats Minnesota Duluth Semifinal #1: North Dakota defeats St. Cloud State Consolation game: Minnesota Duluth and St. Cloud State tie. Championship game: North Dakota defeats Denver WCHA Championship game: Northern Michigan defeats Michigan Tech

If Mankato loses tonight, then I hope SCSU and DU also lose. A Mankato loss will require a 14 or better spot at a minimum, and maybe a 12-13. In other words, we’ll need to win two next weekend. I’d rather go through CC, UMD and Miami than DU, SCSU and UMD if we need two.

I posted that back a page or two. About 7 in the pairwise.

Too many teams ahead of us are done, and probably too far ahead to catch with one win. Need Mankato, NE, Providence, Clarkson and Cornell to be good to us.

We really need Mankato and Clarkson to win tomorrow. I don’t see us climbing above 14, even with a win in St Paul. I wouldn’t bet against BC or BU in Hockey east, so we need the WCHA and ECAC to go chalk.

If you really want to play "what might have been," go play with CHN's customizer feature for the pairwise. If UND had won those games in which they had a two goal or more lead this year, they'd be number 7 in the pairwise. If they had won those games in which they led going into the 3rd period, they would be number 7 in the pairwise. If they had won those games in which they either had a two goal lead or lead going into the third period, they'd be number 5.

I agree. I think Jake has improved a lot since he first started. I found myself a couple of times this season thinking that he made some really, really good observations about the game.

Could always just have the band play the school song.

Since no one else will bite, I will. “Whether or not” should just be “whether.”

I think if you list tickets for sale you have access to sales data.

A couple of other options to keep in mind for rooms If you have a group, consider a VRBO. A lot of people own condos in various locations on the strip, and use them as vacation spots, renting them out during the rest of the year. We stayed at what was the Westgate time share resort just behind Planet Hollywood a few years ago and got a great deal. Those suites were spectacular, too. Second, we once used priceline and got rooms for $50/night at Planet Hollywood. With two people per room you couldn't beat the price.

I have a lot of suggestions. A group of buddies and I have been going there about twice a year for a number of years, and we've stayed in a wide variety of the hotels. It really depends upon what you are looking for and what you want to spend. The Orleans is off the strip, and you really can't walk between the Strip and that resort without a lot of hassle, and some danger. But the Orleans itself is fine if you just want to show up, gamble a little, go to the game, then leave town without having to see the Strip, rent a car, or pay $20 every time you want to taxi or uber somewhere. Most resorts are going to have a "resort fee" of about $30/night for the room, so keep that in mind as you check out websites for prices and deals. We've use Delta Vacations, Orbitz and Cheapo Vegas in the past. You just have to shop around. I've found that the best deals, at least coming out of Minneapolis, is for a Thursday to Tuesday trip, primarily because the flights are so much cheaper. Rooms in Vegas for any night other than Friday or Saturday can be pretty cheap, even at the best resorts. Keep in mind that it'll be a football weekend, so the resorts fill up with Californians coming over to bet college and NFL games. Vegas sportsbooks on a Saturday and Sunday in the fall are crazy fun, if you're into football and sports betting. But be prepared to hit the sports book pretty early Sunday morning to get a seat (games start at 10 a.m. Vegas time). I would divide the strip resorts into three categories, A to C, with A being the nicest resorts/rooms (but also the highest prices): Class A: Aria, Cosmopolitan, Caesars, Wynn, Encore, Mirage, Venetian, Palazzo, MGM, The Cromwell, Bellagio and Mandalay Bay Class B: Paris, Treasure Island, Luxor, The Linq (Ralph's old place, refurbished), New York New York, Monte Carlo (about to be rebranded as "Park"), Planet Hollywood Class C: Flamingo, Ballys, Tropicana, Circus Circus, Excalibur, Hooters, Harrahs, Westgate Las Vegas, the Stratosphere, Best Western Casino Royale Within Class C, there is a big variety. Hooters is horrible. Excalibur is pretty rundown and gritty. Same with the Strat and Casino Royale. They've done refurbishing at the Trop and at Westgate Las Vegas. Harrahs is pretty gritty. The Flamingo and Ballys are fine. Avoid Circus Circus. The Linq promenade is a relatively new entertainment district right between the Linq resort and the Flamingo. On the east end of the promenade is the big ferris wheel (The High Roller), and there is a shuttle to and from the Orleans that picks up at the ferris wheel. That is also the heart of the strip, so I've always thought the Linq, Flamingo, The Cromwell, Caesars and Bellagio area of the strip is the best place to stay. Walking district to everywhere on the strip. If I had one tip for travelers out there this October it is to watch for deals at what is now called the Monte Carlo, but what is being completely renovated and rebranded as Park MGM. The room rates were always pretty reasonable at the Monte Carlo, and it's a pretty good location. Quite frequently when they do a complete refurbishing out there you see a "lag" in the room prices until it starts building demand. People associate the property with the old resort so there isn't big demand until people see how nice the rooms are. That's what happened with the Linq after they refurbished it. Right now that is one thing I'm keeping an eye on. Good luck!

There may be some of that, but I'm not sure how much. Personally I don't think a ton of tickets are going to go on the market, except at unreasonable prices we currently see. As I told a friend, if someone wants to pay $2000 to see this game, I'll sell them my tickets, and I'm going to be in Las Vegas anyway. I've told my buddies that I don't expect to be able to get them tickets. I personally think the most likely scenario for stumbling into tickets is in a situation where someone planned to go, but life intervened in the 20 months between the tickets going on sale and the game. You'll probably learn about them in a place like this message board, or through friends.

Nobody is buying tickets at that price. It's just some North Dakota fans who were able to get in on the presale and think they can rip someone off. I'm actually going to be in Las Vegas with a group of my friends that weekend, so I've been monitoring the ticket availability pretty closely for about a year. I have two tickets from the pre-sale, but if I can pick up more I'm certainly going to do it. The first tickets that came on the market are those seven tickets in Section 105. They were originally listed for a little over $600/seat. They've been listed for months. When the Herald story came out they were still listed for about that same price, but now they raised them to $748. Nobody is going to pay $600 to see this game. The people who have them listed are kidding themselves. My guess is someone might pay $2-250, but that will be about it. I do think it'll be interesting to see what happens with the listing prices. My personal hunch is they will remain high, then the tickets will come off the list because the sellers don't get the king's ransom they seek so they go ahead and plan their personal trip. There is a cut off by which people will have to book their flight and rooms to avoid getting gouged. There won't be a lot of walk up demand for these tickets. If you committed to making the trip, you'll go. If you don't have tickets, you probably won't make the trip unless you have a reason to be there otherwise.

What was the story behind his original commitment to ASU, then backing out and picking UND? Just a matter of a small kid overlooked by most schools so he committed early to ASU? Did he re-open his status before choosing UND, or did we just poach him?

I see where the son of former UND forward Brent Bobyck recently committed to Mankato. At least I think he's the son of Brent. Always enjoyed watching Brent play.

They have a right to rip on UND. That doesn't mean the decision by UND was wrong, but if there is anyone who has a right to be angry, frustrated and disappointed with the actions of UND regarding the women's hockey program, it's the Lammy twins. Let's just ignore the rest of the family's connections and contributions to UND hockey. The Lammy twins gave up an opportunity to be stars on championship teams for nothing more than an opportunity to join a horrid program, in their hometown, and try to breathe some life into it. I'd say they were successful. Some have suggested failure because of the lack of national championships, but all things being equal they certainly put the women's hockey team on the map. I don't necessarily disagree with UND's decision. Something had to be done, and this probably made as much sense fiscally as any others. But the way the school handled it was sub-optimal, to put it mildly. Frankly, it probably bothers me more the lack of outrage over the cutting of the other programs (didn't they care?) or the lack of outrage that our school can't get it's fiscal house in order and seemed to be caught by surprise by all of this.

The Lamoureux family's contributions to North Dakota hockey certainly exceed, by miles, the contributions of anyone on this board. I think its time to stop ripping them. Just my two cents.

Not all lawsuits are generated with the idea that the plaintiff expects to go to trial and be awarded a certain amount of money. Sometimes they are started to make a point. Sometimes they are started to try to force the defendant to compromise, or even just force a party to the bargaining table.

This is just my personal opinion, and I recognize many people here, at UND, or around the country in general may disagree with this opinion, but I think it is a mistake to judge the merits of the women's hockey program, or any other college athletic program, by the number of fans it draws to its games. I don't think that can or should be a consideration. The way I look at it, a University's athletic offerings should be as broad as it's educational offerings. Just because very few people may study English Lit for a major, that doesn't mean the University should drop it. We want a broad base of educational opportunities to attract a broad base of students. The same with our sports teams. During the seven years I was at UND I attended many men's hockey games, quite a few football and basketball games, and about three baseball games. That's it. No swimming meets. No track meets. No soccer or field hockey or volleyball or anything else. But that doesn't mean the programs should be dropped. By offering all these programs, we attract a class of students with a broader array of sports interests. We offer scholarships to people who are good at swimming, but not so good at basketball. These are loss leader programs. We lose money on them, but you need to have them. You need them to be a University. It's a matter of figuring out how to fund them. To me, the failure of the University is in its relationship with the legislature and governor, and the University's failure to address, in advance, money problems which were clearly heading its way.

Oh, I agree with you. I definitely think they're going to go after someone.

Personally, I think all this speculation is for nought. Let's think about some things. B1G hockey has to be feeling a lot better about itself than it was even a couple of months ago when this rumor broke. They got three teams in the tournament. Notre Dame, who also made the field and is joining them next year, made the Frozen Four. Michigan and Michigan St., two of their bread and butter programs just cut their dead weight coaching staffs. Are they suddenly going to ask North Dakota to join them? A school with, shall we say "well publicized", financial problems in its athletic department? And what about our Admin? Are they going to suddenly "find" the money to pay the NCHC exit fee after unceremoniously showing the women's program the exit? Good luck selling the P.R. dog.

Yep, and if you go back and watch all of UND's games, you'd see something similar happen 10-15 times a game between the two teams. Sometimes it causes a player to lose his balance, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the player who loses his balance gets injured. Sometimes he doesn't. The workings of chance don't make it dirty.