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32 minutes ago, Sweethockey said:
Really??
Lol......TN Department of Health numbers or your mystery graphs.....okay. Now you aren't even trying.
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25 minutes ago, Sweethockey said:
If the ICU's continue to be over run with the unvaccinated in Nashville.... I'd say pretty damn good odds.
Sounds scary..........except that's not what's happening. Ever wonder why the "everyone in Florida is gonna die of Covid" stories have dried up? It's because they have been dropping for a month now despite kids not wearing masks in school....etc. Same is happening in TN. The numbers are in decline.
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42 minutes ago, CMSioux said:
The "99% recovery rate" is wrong, incorrect, myth, there are no words. https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-recovery-vaccine/
Your article is flawed. For starters It's almost a year old. But, even in your article it says that England estimated the fatality rate as .9%.....in other words 99.1% live. If you are talking 1 in 100 healthy 30 year old people are dying, that's one thing. But when it includes people of all ages (and once again health levels) that changes it.
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1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:
I'm not anti-vax.
I'm up to date on every vax that's been through full (as in five year) trials.I'm anti-mandate.
I prefer legislated requirements.This. It is impossible for some people to comprehend that it is possible to support vaccinations (and even for oneself to be vaccinated) but still argue against what is going on with the mandates.
And to clarify my previous post, no airborne respiratory virus has ever been eradicated. Comparing vaccines like polio and small pox vaccines which were/are stable for years to the Covid vaccines is disingenuous. It doesn't mean that getting the vaccine isn't a good choice for most people, but let's also not ignore the fact that Covid is here to stay and is burning through the vaccine barrier. Even if every single person in the US got the vaccine, unless you are willing to lockdown borders it just takes a couple travelers from India, China, wherever that has the newest variant to reignite the flame again in the US. And even if you lock down the borders to accomplish this, studies are ongoing to determine the prevalence of transmission of Covid from animals (i.e. Mr. kitty cat) to humans which according to CDC is currently considered low risk..... but it's not no risk.
Advertise it for what it is....a way for most people to improve their odds of not getting sick enough to be hospitalized and/or die.
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15 hours ago, CMSioux said:
I know you aren't looking for an answer and I know you have already made up your mind but for those who trust science it comes down to the word "Contagious".
Most viruses and all respiratory viruses are and always have been contagious. No respiratory virus in the history of humans has ever been eradicated so the body needs to learn to fight it at some point or another. The science a year or two from now will be interesting when/if studies are done to see how weakened people's immune systems have gotten from hiding from not just Covid but many viruses. Will the guy that went to 77,000 Lambeau field maskless just get sniffles from a common cold while they person that's been sheltering his/her immune system for 2 years get buckled from basic common colds? With venues opening up should find out soon.
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16 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:
walked thru a small portion of the union tonight....wow what an upgrade!!!!!!!!
Very nice for sure. For the amount of money it cost it should be nice though. At least they didn't screw it up.
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3 hours ago, CMSioux said:
This was in reference to "a spill" concern about "Clear" app. Don't see that we have much choice to get in the door. Still waiting for the other shoe to drop and for the game to be cancelled outright.
I hope it isn't cancelled and don't think it will as numbers are trending down in the south....for now. But there does come a point where it's fair to ask if too many more hoops are added to jump through this close to show time if cancellation is a viable option. I'm guessing not because I'm guessing financially the game is already a success for UND with what seems to have been strong ticket sales.
I will throw this out there that maybe someone can help with.......does UND/Penn State/ Big Ten currently have testing requirements in place for athletes? Because if 1/3 of Penn State tests positive or is close contacted out for a couple days on Wed/Thur that would end the game pretty quickly too.
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32 minutes ago, CMSioux said:
Help me understand - what is there to "spill" they have a scan of my driver's license and vax card - isn't all that information available to someone who really wanted to find it?
Same could be said about almost anything. You can't 100% eliminate risk when it comes to losing/having personally identifiable information (including health related information) stolen and/or abused. That doesn't mean you don't take reasonable steps to reduce risk. One can argue where that reasonable line is......but even you have a line..... If it's not that big of a deal go make 1000 photo quality color copies of your driver's license (front and back) and leave a couple in every building on the UND campus.
Just because a good thief can break into most anywhere, doesn't mean you don't take steps like have working locks, neighborhood watches, Ring doorbells, etc on your home to keep from being an easy target.
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1 hour ago, CMSioux said:
It just has you scan your drivers license and vax card, no info that would provide or allow access to health records. But "these days people are tripping over each other to create black helicopter situations where none exist".
Thank you for trying to make a point because it brings up another thing people are overlooking. Those that work in the information security world know that not all spills are intentional....in fact most are unintentional. But I'm sure all of these low cost bidder 3rd party apps will have people safely covered.
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58 minutes ago, CMSioux said:Oh the tin foil hat wearers are going to be howling.
It's all fun until the intrusion hits an area that you care about.....which eventually it will. Two years ago if you told someone to upload their medical information into a 3rd party app so they could show it to some fella making $10 an hour to gain entry to a college hockey game they would have told you to "f" off. These days some people are tripping over each other to comply with whatever they are told to do.
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1 hour ago, UNDlaw80 said:
My larger point was there are tons of things we do and accept in our daily lives that intrude on our personal well being, yet nobody complains, fights against it, nor gives it a second thought.
Hell, if you want to attend any sporting event you’ve likely been required to show ID or give out your CC number (to purchase ticket). These are de facto “ID cards to enter” - except they have far, far more personal info attached to them than the standard Covid vaccination card.
Either way, this is nothing new. This country’s history is littered with vaccine mandates, banning of public events, school and businesses closings, vaccination requirements, etc. George Washington even demanded his troops be immunized against smallpox; even against their will.
With so many other ‘anti-freedom’, ‘slippery slope’ restrictions in life that nobody says crap about, the hardcore anti-covid/vaccination stance just seems like selective political outrage; and people are willing to miss Sioux games because of it. It’s a shame.
Each to their own I suppose. It’s their right too.
People are generally willing to go along with the examples you gave because they have a track record of dependability. Fewer people would buy into using credit cards to buy tickets for example........if 3 months from now 1/3 of the tickets purchased that way had disappeared and you were told you had to run your card again even though they weren't able to tell you if you were part of the 1/3 that had already lost their ticket.
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2 hours ago, UNDlaw80 said:
Polio was rarer than Covid. Could you imagine a parent in the 50's denying their kid the polio vaccination because of 'reasons'? Neither can I.
And nobody did because, unlike today with Covid, the situation wasn't politicized. It still isn't. Every state in the US requires kids to be vaccinated before going to school, and nobody objects, or says anything even though contracting polio is rarer than getting Covid.Unfortunately, unlike polio, Covid has become the center of a culture war.
The polio vaccine 70 years later is still 99-100% effective.......so just a wee bit different.
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4 hours ago, jdub27 said:
There has been plenty of tickets for face value available for the last 6-8 months at minimum, well before any mandate was announced.
Appears it gives some people cover and feel better about not going though.Fair enough, there is always a component of people that raise their hand during the initial planning process but are nowhere to be found when it's go time.
However it's naive to think that a certain percentage of people aren't going because instead of fading away arbitrary rules/restrictions are still being generated (like Vegas opening up and then going back to masks). Maybe the rules change again and you need to be vaccinated AND have a negative test 72 hours before? Maybe children under 12 aren't allowed in at all because they aren't vaccinated? Maybe a new variant is identified that JnJ doesn't work against so they say only Moderna and Pfizer count. No one wants the goal posts getting moved again a week before they fly in.
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1 minute ago, northernraider said:
Tickets aren't refundable are they?
Only if the event is cancelled. The Bridgestone Arena vax mandate in and of itself might not be the sole factor scaring people away. However it may have some people thinking "what's next?".
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5 minutes ago, northernraider said:
Best response I have seen on this topic yet. I am sure the bean counters, risk agents, and lawyers that work for Bridgestone Arena all decided this was the best option to protect themselves from either bad press or civil suits.
This. That is the point I probably didn't do it he best job of explaining. I honestly believe things would be very different with an impartial media.......but they latched onto this issue and (imo) are bullying whoever they can into compliance.
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2 hours ago, SJHovey said:
I guess I'll have to ask you to cite for me one or two of the "volumes" of examples where complying with the demands/rules of a private property owner/business before entering said property owner/business' building turned out to be ignorant and naive. The next thing I know you'll probably be telling me I'm going to have to wear pants to the game.
I always enjoy how people pick and choose when they want to enforce property/business rights and when they don't. Definitely happens both ways, but the pendulum is way overextended one way at the time being. I would say that I hope that the same people currently gloating because they are getting their way are just as accepting when the pendulum swings back the other way.....but my suspicion is they won't.
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3 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:
Open beds, yet life saving surgeries are being postponed....
A guest essay in the Washington Post? Sounds unbiased to me. Come on be better than that.
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2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
ND health site says no one on Eastern ND is doing J and J.
At least one pharmacy that I am aware of has Moderna shots on demand so the timeline isn't an issue if someone wants to comply. The issue of whether complying should be necessary belongs in the thread that is closed.
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Florida has basically peaked by letting it rip South Dakota style. The rest of the South is soon to follow. Not an argument of whether that was the right way to do it.....but the sooner the hump/peak passes the better chance things will be lightened up come Oct 30.
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Sounds like a facility worried about liability. There is no way that a bunch of part time event staff will be able to tell real/fake cards or so the math. However, by at least putting forth the good faith effort they are hoping to avoid super spreader press.
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43 minutes ago, Cratter said:
https://www.nrn.com/casual-dining/famous-dave-s-plans-quick-que-service-format
Essentially "fast casual style"
Chipotle. Jimmy John's. etc
It will be like a Dickies was minus the horrible access.......
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The whole point of NDSU and UND are the physical experience they provide. Poor leadership that encourages students to come to campus only to be stuck in a dorm with 100% online classes (last year) or that enacts a mask mandate after students had already arrived will impact enrollment.
You take away too much of that experience, students will just stay home and go online to a better and/or cheaper school than NDSU/UND. Maybe that is already happening.
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4 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:
After all of this supposed "friction" he created in the locker room, he was again voted a captain.
No one knew he was a "me" player until he jumped.
It's not a season ender because we have good players, but it's absolutely not an addition by subtraction.
Has a player that was a captain one season not been "voted" back as captain the next season? Seems like it's kind of a default type of deal. And keep in mind the "friction" would have happened after he already had the captain-ship given to him.
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As for Weatherby's shot at playing in the NHL, is he really any better than a player like Poganski was? Seems like a similar decent AHL player that can't quite make it in the NHL type player but who knows.
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Soooooo you do realize that Worldometer is basically a Wikipedia like site? You really think that is more accurate than a state public health department's official data?