TheFlop

The problem is when it's presented via trojan horse. If someone calls me into their home to install a new furnace, their expectation is that.....I will install a new furnace for them. If instead I come into their house and spend the entire install time making political statements, should they have expected that? No. The only reason they wanted my services is for a furnace, not for political lecturing. People go to hockey games to escape, not to have political statements thrown at them.

I think the biggest issue that the "offended" crowd has is the way it is being pushed through every avenue. You expect to see it on TV news/opinion shows, you expect to see it on the internet on various news and commentary sites, you expect to hear it in coffee shops or even on a college campus. People get overloaded and just want that 2-3 hour break from it at a sporting event, at the movies, at a concert, or on a couple of TV shows. Apparently now even at a niche sporting event like college hockey that is no longer possible.

Name calling got left in the dumpster thread. But thanks for trying.

As to JBD, he's not even a US citizen so kneeling for the US anthem doesn't really put him out on a limb. Similar to what Matt Dumba did at the start of the NHL pod, a Canadian player takes a knee for the US anthem, but I don't recall seeing him do it during a Canadian national anthem. I guess coming from a country with a leader that has been seen in full black face isn't a problem. And for the moderators that are probably starting to get twitchy fingers, 2 players changed the trajectory of this thread as did Schlossman, it wasn't any one person on this thread. If Schlossman is reading this STICK TO HOCKEY! That's the only reason people follow you.

I'm a big fan of consistency. If social justice was so important to them I do wonder where their public protests were when Mitchell Miller along with his racist antics past was on campus practicing shoulder to shoulder with them. But like many things I suppose that has been rationalized to be different somehow.

Yes unless they are members of a gym or participate in sports. Those people need to stay at home just a little bit longer for the greater good.

And for the record, in this case I want all of the smokers, obese, and people in general that have neglected their health to get first crack at the vaccine so their poor decisions can stop having so much impact on the rest of the US.

I've been getting judged since March everytime I've given any type of dissenting voice against the Covid is gonna kill us all crowd. A little turnabout is fair play.

If I understand what you are saying, it's already happened. I'm not saying that just because someone smokes means they deserve to die of Covid. What I am saying is that smoking is a choice. In most cases obesity is also a choice. The hazards of those choices are well known. People that live a more moderate lifestyle are already financially getting hammered because of those poor choices made by others (increased insurance/cost of medical care, etc) even though they chose to live a healthier lifestyle by not smoking and by not eating bag after bag of Doritos. So when the very thing that the obese and smokers were warned about comes home to roost, some people's solution is to punish those that made the smart decisions to stay healthy in an effort to bail out the smokestacks and porkers? Ask around to anyone working in hospitals at the moment, with very few exceptions the people filling up beds are the very old (can't do much about age) and the obese.

It wasn't on purpose, but he proved that the cumbaya taking a softer stance and being more passive than presidents before him made no difference in how most in the Middle East hate the US. So if the a**-kissing approach doesn't work, might as well stick with the tried and true hammer approach. One less guy in Iran now versus a week ago that has high level nuclear weapons ability. That is a positive.

This is one area where Obama deserves credit. He made a point of peddling apologies throughout the Middle East during his time, yet those countries mostly all still hated the US. Obama proved that the traditional argument of (they only hate the US because the US intervenes) was hogwash. Since the hatred by those ME countries is a given, God bless those who keep the US safe by keeping terrorist turds in the Middle East litterbox.

Flatten the curve was soooooo March/April of 2020.....we are in a new era of zero deaths in case you haven't heard.

Just think of how much lower we could drive that number if bars and restaurants closed at 8pm? If youth sporting events were called off until Jan 14 instead of Dec 14? C'mon people, let's not stop now. Let's drive this down to zero old people dying in nursing homes dying with Covid.....let's get back to the good old days of people just dying in nursing homes.

Depends on what one defines as respect. Will Biden be a kindler gentler President that is nice when he speaks? Absolutely. Does the US gain alot of respect by having a frail old senile man that even most supporters admit is nothing more than a puppet for Harris in office? I'm not so sure.

Did someone see it happen or did his Life Alert get activated after he had fallen?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-27/how-covid-19-has-turned-the-spotlight-back-on-obesity-quicktake So people that don't take their health seriously for years get to have priority over those that do. Perfect. #MASKS FOREVER #SAVEONELIFE

Impossible to find workers? Nice try. The vast majority of people that are dying are in the been done with work for years/end of life category. Stop with the scare tactics.

Yes but the main problem is that there is such a difference in what some people see as common sense out there. For some, healthy kids being kicked online for school while 75 year old Thema and Harriet still get to go to Perkins each morning makes sense.

Must be fake news, he's been on the mask up and quarantine visitors from out of state bandwagon almost the entire time. Masks protect other people. This can't be happening.

Walz and Newsom are salivating. Covid-19 has given them such an ego trip that they can't wait for Covid-21

And will King Walz stop his endless emergency declarations?

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1826530/supermarkets-most-common-place-catch-covid/ Youth hockey rink must be a close second though.

It is not dismissing, it is taking an entire picture view of the situation, something that the "if it saves just one life" crowd has never done throughout all of this. With few exceptions, most people don't want to die or see someone die. However some of those exceptions can occur in LTC when people's quality of life is already shot and they give up......or when you see how much pain and suffering someone is in you may wish for them to die. With the average age of a Covid death being right around the expected life expectancy of a person that dies without Covid, it is not unreasonable to say that if not Covid the reality is something else had a very good chance of doing them in. People don't live forever. Now if Covid was killing off massive numbers of 40-50 year old people that is an entirely different beast, but that's not what is happening. The safety of the elderly and vulnerable should be BALANCED with the what is best for the younger and healthy. The Covid response in this nation has to this point been an all or nothing let's do whatever it takes to save one 90 year old person that is close to dying anyways which is ridiculous.

Now that you've added nothing you can go back to getting off on K-12 kids getting locked down so the 90 year old nursing home resident that wants to die anyways can make it another couple weeks.

As to the mail in voting argument, this sums it up better than any study could ever do.