mizzou/sioux

The good old boys network in many respects is alive and well and has been for many years in many and varied instances in business as well as pleasure. Why should it be any different in sports settings?

I would guess perhaps one of the considerations might be that in some instances St. Cloud is considered part of the Twin Cities metropolitan area and as such might factor in as part of a television coverage that would include Denver, Colorado Springs and perhaps Grand Rapids insofar as Western Michigan is concerned. In some minds perhaps Western Michigan would be close enough to Chicago to warrant some interest in the Chicago market. Just a thought.

Depending on when you date the 50 years from (for example if you go back 50 years from 2003, that would go back to the mid-1950s), one might argue the 1960 Golden Gophers went on to win the national championship. The 1961 Gophers defeated UCLA 21-3 in the 1962 Rose Bowl. Those were a pair of potent Murray Warmath coached Gopher teams.

Chewey, while "journalism itself is fodder for comic relief" may indeed have a basis in fact, it is not a recent development in journalism. Having studied journalism at both UND and in graduate school at the University of Missouri-Columbia and having thoroughly studied the history of journalism, this interjection of agendas and perhaps questionable facts is not at all new. Back in colonial days journalism was intensely personal at times. Editor-publishers were jailed on occasion when they printed material deemed objectionable by a political opponent. In fact, many journalists were politicians themselves. The revered and esteemed Benjamin Franklin was not only a printer-publisher but a politician of the first order. Franklin was also involved with postal service and delivery. He had his hands in everything. Not that that is necessarily bad. You talk about agendas. Well, believe me, there were plenty of agendas back then as well. The ill-thought-out Alien and Sedition Acts back in President John Adams' time is hardly something to harken back to.

It's always refreshing to get an outsider's point of view. In addition, it's a damn fine post.

Can anyone spell Weston Dressler?

Perhaps wishful thinking. I don't think the Fargo trolls will ever leave us permanently.

Ah, methinks here is a fan who's spot on and knows whereof he speaks. Very well put.

Ahem! Considering the current bandied about "abusive and hostile" situation that has often been alleged by fans down South as well as the NCAA political consideration stand, don't you think playing for an "Indianhead" nickel (if the NCAA is to be consistent, and Lord knows they ain't), is really out of the question?

Elimination of the School of Communication still pisses me off. And to think that at one time the journalism department at UND was one of the very best in the nation. Donald Gillmor, a former journalism professor at the UND who later moved to the University of Minnesota School of Journalism faculty, once commented that UND's journalism program was the best between the Twin Cities and the West Cost.. Dr. Gillmor went on to become an established legal scholar, especially as it related to communications law, and published a number of books and papers in that area. Dr. Gillmor was an outstanding journalism educator.

That is truly great news indeed. I quite agree that it is a great and blessed day for Eric and his Mom. For one thing, it's a reminder there is more to life than athletics or any other single concentration in life. Thanks for the most heartening news. It helps put some things in perspective.

Seems certain to me that attempting to prohibit the wearing of Sioux gear at a game would be in direct violation of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Well said.

In short, very well said, sad but true. We have to consider the University as a whole as well.

I have been a longtime nickname supporter. Nevertheless, as much as it pains me to say this, I think our options to retain the nickname in addition to being able to support a viable athletic program at UND are virtually nil. The NCAA in its infinite (?) wisdom appears to hold the trump cards. If Iowa, Wisconsin and Minnesota among other universities are going to deny playing us then I question our proceeding in a manner which could seriously adversely UND's being able to field a strong and competitive athletic program. The NCAA appears adamant in its stance. Like it or not, the NCAA makes the rules on national tournaments. NAIA is not an option for UND. We can talk all we want about the NCAA's arbitrary and capricious behavior. Unless the U.S. Supreme Court were someday to rule against the NCAA in this manner (highly doubtful), we're hung out to dry. The powers that be acted as they did in a politically correct manner and are quite proud of themselves for doing so. Yes, like it or not, North Dakota is flyover country. No one is coming to the rescue with enough clout to make a change. I'll eat crow if I'm wrong. I just don't see it happening. The North Dakota legislature, rightly or wrongly, made an effort. But I fear it's all come to naught. I'm happy with being in the Big Sky, also the WAC for women's swimming and diving as an affiliate member. While I don't like officially losing the nickname, I'll be a Fighting Sioux forever in my own mind.

I realize many things go on in business that when all is said and done are really shabby. However, I expected more from my university. I agree with the above: Treat a person with some respect and dignity. The way in which the dismissal occurred appears cold and calculating. Or is this a foretaste of what's to come, namely that of being a leaner and meaner university?

Good data. Lots of hard work went into compiling this. Really appreciate it. Thanks again.

UND at Wyoming in 2015. Wish granted.

Now that the upcoming Big Sky football schedule has been released up through 2015, I can understand why neither UND nor NDSU really "need" the rivalry football game as such. But I also think much consideration should be given to renewing this rivalry. The rivalry was among those listed in a book published on great college football rivalries perhaps a quarter of a century or so ago. I also like the idea of rotating games between und and usd, und and sdsu and the like, as has been suggested here. The details can be worked out. I think it's laughable that some NDSU supporters can hype up the SDSU rivalry (largely manufactured) as being anywhere close to that of the UND-NDSU rivalry. Wishing doesn't make it so. If in the eyes of some the basketball game between UND and NDSU probably didn't heat up as much as many might have expected might have had something to do with NDSU's playoff football excruciating loss just moments earlier. I quite agree with the statement, "No matter how hard both sides try to discount the rivalry between the 2 schools, we will always have the history, proximity and dislike that no other rivalry can match." So true.

I quite agree. Congratulations to the Bulldogs. If the Sioux couldn't win it, the next best thing is to have another team from the WCHA take it all, particularly when the coach of that team is a former Sioux. As you also pointed out, another good thing is keeping Michigan from adding to their NC lead. Duluth winning it all also once again confirmed the overall strength of the WCHA. A fourth-place finish in the WCHA regular season and then to go on to win the national championship. Yes, very much, enjoy the moment. By the way, I'm not here to denigrate Michigan. However, it once again, I think, proves that it's awfully hard to beat four WCHA teams in a row to capture the national title. Michigan almost did it, very much to their credit. Once again, a mighty salute to the Bulldogs. I fully expect they will be one of the teams to watch in the upcoming 2011-12 season.

I quite agree. Having listened to Jack call games for the RedHawks as well as football, I think Jack is extremely well qualified and is fun to listen to. He is professional to the nth degree. I have no problem at all his splitting his time that way. Team announcers in major league baseball often are called on to do regional games for the Fox network. From an objective standpoint I really can't see what all the fuss is about.

Agreed. Getting Jack Michaels is a huge coup. And Jack is a professional. While we're at it, let's add another broadcast name out of the past in Boyd Christenson. Boyd is a UND graduate who spent years calling play-by-play for the Bison. Did Bison fans complain about that as well, or was that a more benign era?

I couldn't agree more. Good post.

I quite agree: I think Jack's one of the best around.

Superb article on a superb player and coach, one of the the very best.