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4 minutes ago, bincitysioux said:
It is a final from the UNIdome, 45-24 the Jacks over the Panthers. Does a convincing win like thar for SDSU over one of the darlings of the FCS give them a seed?
Not sure I want to know the answer. ...
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14 minutes ago, Gothmog said:Are you suggesting that UND would not have negotiated a similarly one-sided deal with NDSU had it been in a position to do so? UND wanted and needed the games, NDSU didn't. Had the situation been reversed UND would certainly have used that advantage to negotiate a better deal for itself, as would any institution. That's life.
I asume you're not serious in throwing out the Godfather Defense ("Nothing personal. Just business") and were giggling when you typed this old whopper .UND didn't "need" these games anymore that Weber or Montana "needed" a series with the AC.This was a poison pill thrown out there to push back the discussion of a "rivalry renewal." UND, IMHO, accepted a bad deal because it's new coach -- God bless him -- was preoccupied with a rivalry from another era. Bitterness seems to run awfully deep within your fanbase and your institution.
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1 hour ago, homer said:
For anyone that gets ROOT sports, EWU and Portland St is on tonight
9 PM CST start? Look forward to updates from anyone who has 'em.
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2 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said:
Why sign a home-home when you can sign them for 2 home games?
Speaks volumes about the institutional attitude of our potential new conference "friends."
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13 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:
You think New Hampshire and Western Illinois should've been in over UND? Don't get me started on that different topic, Ira.
I too like the schools in the Big Sky Conference, but I also like the regional schools that are far more relatable to UND and this region.
If anyone thinks average attendance (which is $$ bottomline) won't be up with consistent contests against local schools (NDSU, SDSU, USD), they are largely mistaken. This needs to happen largely for that as well as the travel costs (perhaps minor but still a tangible factor). Lastly, travel to away contests and neutral site tournaments (Sioux Falls Summit League Tournament) for UND fans will improve substantially in terms of numbers. Perhaps you won't get "scenic, unique vacations" that the BSC apparently allows for some, but that isn't doable for the masses.
I am happy to hear so many have bought into the Big Sky Conference and support it. That said, don't let inherent hate for NDSU cloud your judgement as far as which conference(s) just make more sense.
Which "masses" typically attend UND road games outside of Fargo? Nerly 400 miles from Grand Forks to Vermillion. Not exactly a trip down to Valley Dairy. I think UND historically averaged a couple hundred fans for games at the South Dakota schools back in the day. Kudos to those who attend, but a minor point in choosing conference affiliation. And I think annually playing your conference BB tourney in the "neutral site" of Sioux Falls is akin to playing the AC at the "neutral site" of Scheels hockey arena in Fargo.
Bottom line, the choice seems to be between a stable conference considered a "destination conference" by most of its members or a conference that many of its members -- most notably those "local schools" in the Dakotas -- continue to aspire to leave.
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2 groups of two seats available in section 114, Rows H&K for Friday 11/11 v DU. $30 each. Text 701 866-4075 if iterested.
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1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:
Mussman and his staff made those statement when UND first joined the Big Sky Conference. Those players that he recruited from those "non-traditional" regions were largely unsuccessful here at UND. Bubba and his staff recruit a MVFC blueprint, which is essentially the traditional regions of North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and even Manitoba. Bubba and his staff support a MVFC move for this reason, among several others.
I've never heard Bubba or anyone on his staff publicly express a conference preference, one way or the other.. Do you have a link to a published article or podcast on this? Details from a personal conversation with Bubba or one of his assistants? I recall hearing Bubba, in a post-signing day interview last winter or the year before, saying he was surprised at the positive reaction potential recruits had to the prospect of traveling to/playing at Big Sky schools.
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23 minutes ago, bincitysioux said:
Summit League = Landing pad for all schools rejected by the Big Sky.
And unfortunately it appears UND may be willing to throw away the enormous opportunity that the Big Sky presents, mostly because it and many of its supporters miss NDSU.
Where would the hockey program be today if it were equally consumed by a perceived need to be in lockstep with Minnesota? Probably not at the top......
Fully agree with your post. Lots of discussion here about the enormous savings to be had by jumping conferences, but does anyone really have any hard numbers on what UND might gain -- perhaps travel-budget numbers compared to those from the AC -- to justify sliding down to the bus league?
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8 minutes ago, homer said:
Shame on the marketing department for trying to build excitement in the offseason.
We got a marketing department now?!?
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2 hours ago, bincitysioux said:
The thing is, UND doesn't need them to do any favors regarding league membership. We have a league. A great league with great members. A far superior conference to the Summit/MVFC.
Nice casting. Well played.
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1 hour ago, Siouxperman8 said:
Without a home for football the Summit visit was meaningless and nothing was coming from the MVFC. We got a Big Sky invite on the eve of the Summit visit and couldn't afford to turn it down. They had 4-5 years to extend an invite if they were serious.
There was nothing stopping UND admin from completing the Summit site visit and informally exploring the possibility of MVFC invite -- just as USD did -- before answering the Big Sky offer. But they didn't because they saw the Big Sky offer as clearly superior, as Faison publicly stated. A formal, up-front offer from the MVFC may or may not have changed that.
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39 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:
we asked for 4-5 years and were told to pound sand. I am sure there are still discussions but we are in the Big Sky because the Summit/MVFC said no to UND over and over and over again.
I think your recollection of the history here is a bit muddled. No one offered while UND was slogging through the initial years of transition -- just as was the case for the AC and SDSU earlier. It was UND that cancelled the Summit site visit, a precursor to a certain conference invite, on the eve of the visit when the Big Sky came calling with a membership offer. Faison called that decision a "no-brainer." A formal football invite from the Gateway conference (MVFC) may have changed the equation, but it certainly was not a given.
Personally, I much prefer the BSC over the NCC 2.0. Travel costs, unfortunately, could alter the assessment by UND admin.
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12 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:Does it say print media can't interview coaches? My guess is if he wants an interview for a newspaper column, he will get it. I would guess he has always called the athletic department to get to Klieman in the past anyway. They won't deny an interview for a newspaper column. Do you think if Schlossy wanted an interview with Hak he just called his home phone? I don't think so.
There then. We have it on good authority.
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4 hours ago, gundy1124 said:
I bet those emails disappear. "HILLARY", where are you??
So ....
Great thread here about the knuckle heads at the AC big-timin' their local media sycophants -- who buy ink by the barrel -- and you want to derail it into what promises to be another tired political pissing match?
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10 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
I'll reserve judgment until I know what he was doing instead.
Loking forward to your update on this.
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12 hours ago, Csonked Out said:
It's an unprofitable sport in an area of the country where it is greatly affected by weather. The long term viability of the sport just doesn't make sense up here. I want us to cut the fat and let the athletic department properly compensate staff so we can be more competitive in hiring quality talent in the major sports.
Budget deficits. Conference requirements. Title IX. I understand. But if profitability is the criterion for elimination, we're probably down to men's hockey. And with more than a century as a UND collegiate sports, it's hard to argue baseball hasn't already demonstrated "long term viability."
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2 Groups of two seats available for Friday, 03/04/16, in section 114, rows H and K. $35 each ticket. Text 701 866-4075 if interested.
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2 Groups of two tickets (separate rows) available in section 114 for Friday, 1/15/16. Text 701 866-3872 if interested.
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You need to realize that the staff did not recruit either of these backup QB's. They owe them nothing. That is the harsh reality of college athletics and the reason why so many transfer after a coaching change. To have two full rides tied up in your 2nd and 3rd string QB's and neither is very good is bad for the team overall. Very bad. If those two are never going to play again, barring injury, why would they deserve a full ride scholarship from a new staff?
Again, I hope Bubba doesn't share your attitude. Last I checked, all scholarshipped athletes signed letters of intent with the University of North Dakota, not Chris Mussman or Bubba Schweigert. Personally, I'd be disappointed in my alma mater and its coaches if they didn't honor their commitments to the athletes the university recruits, as long as the athletes remain committed to it. And if success or failure for North Dakota football rides on honoring two scholarships, we've got much bigger issues.
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give Mollberg and Bartles the option to be a walk on next year. Only keep one if any, if it doesn't cost us a scholarship. I heard Heidelbaugh is sharp, gets things quickly, and his athletic ability is comparable to Studsrud. heidelbaugh is clear #2.
Great idea. Wonderful way to reward a couple of guys, both with other options, who chose to come here during transition, stuck with the program through bad times and endured the criticism from arm-chair QBs on this board and elsewhere while trying to run an offense with no offensive line protection and no running game. Sure hope this isn't Bubba's mind set. Can't imagine what that would say to would-be recruits about the program's integrity and dedication to its student athletes.
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Tickets still available. $30 each, or all four for $100.
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I have four tickets available in Setion 114, 2 seats in row H and 2 in K, available for Friday game vs Wisconsin. Text 701 866-4075 if interested.
Four lower bowl for FRIDAY v MSU
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Four tickets, in two groups of two, available in lower bowl for Friday night (11/25/16) game vs Michigan State. Seats are in Sec 114, Rows H & K. $35 per ticket. Text 701 866-4075 if interested.