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13 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:
You think New Hampshire and Western Illinois should've been in over UND? Don't get me started on that different topic, Ira.
I too like the schools in the Big Sky Conference, but I also like the regional schools that are far more relatable to UND and this region.
If anyone thinks average attendance (which is $$ bottomline) won't be up with consistent contests against local schools (NDSU, SDSU, USD), they are largely mistaken. This needs to happen largely for that as well as the travel costs (perhaps minor but still a tangible factor). Lastly, travel to away contests and neutral site tournaments (Sioux Falls Summit League Tournament) for UND fans will improve substantially in terms of numbers. Perhaps you won't get "scenic, unique vacations" that the BSC apparently allows for some, but that isn't doable for the masses.
I am happy to hear so many have bought into the Big Sky Conference and support it. That said, don't let inherent hate for NDSU cloud your judgement as far as which conference(s) just make more sense.
Which "masses" typically attend UND road games outside of Fargo? Nerly 400 miles from Grand Forks to Vermillion. Not exactly a trip down to Valley Dairy. I think UND historically averaged a couple hundred fans for games at the South Dakota schools back in the day. Kudos to those who attend, but a minor point in choosing conference affiliation. And I think annually playing your conference BB tourney in the "neutral site" of Sioux Falls is akin to playing the AC at the "neutral site" of Scheels hockey arena in Fargo.
Bottom line, the choice seems to be between a stable conference considered a "destination conference" by most of its members or a conference that many of its members -- most notably those "local schools" in the Dakotas -- continue to aspire to leave.
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2 groups of two seats available in section 114, Rows H&K for Friday 11/11 v DU. $30 each. Text 701 866-4075 if iterested.
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1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:
Mussman and his staff made those statement when UND first joined the Big Sky Conference. Those players that he recruited from those "non-traditional" regions were largely unsuccessful here at UND. Bubba and his staff recruit a MVFC blueprint, which is essentially the traditional regions of North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and even Manitoba. Bubba and his staff support a MVFC move for this reason, among several others.
I've never heard Bubba or anyone on his staff publicly express a conference preference, one way or the other.. Do you have a link to a published article or podcast on this? Details from a personal conversation with Bubba or one of his assistants? I recall hearing Bubba, in a post-signing day interview last winter or the year before, saying he was surprised at the positive reaction potential recruits had to the prospect of traveling to/playing at Big Sky schools.
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23 minutes ago, bincitysioux said:
Summit League = Landing pad for all schools rejected by the Big Sky.
And unfortunately it appears UND may be willing to throw away the enormous opportunity that the Big Sky presents, mostly because it and many of its supporters miss NDSU.
Where would the hockey program be today if it were equally consumed by a perceived need to be in lockstep with Minnesota? Probably not at the top......
Fully agree with your post. Lots of discussion here about the enormous savings to be had by jumping conferences, but does anyone really have any hard numbers on what UND might gain -- perhaps travel-budget numbers compared to those from the AC -- to justify sliding down to the bus league?
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8 minutes ago, homer said:
Shame on the marketing department for trying to build excitement in the offseason.
We got a marketing department now?!?
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2 hours ago, bincitysioux said:
The thing is, UND doesn't need them to do any favors regarding league membership. We have a league. A great league with great members. A far superior conference to the Summit/MVFC.
Nice casting. Well played.
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1 hour ago, Siouxperman8 said:
Without a home for football the Summit visit was meaningless and nothing was coming from the MVFC. We got a Big Sky invite on the eve of the Summit visit and couldn't afford to turn it down. They had 4-5 years to extend an invite if they were serious.
There was nothing stopping UND admin from completing the Summit site visit and informally exploring the possibility of MVFC invite -- just as USD did -- before answering the Big Sky offer. But they didn't because they saw the Big Sky offer as clearly superior, as Faison publicly stated. A formal, up-front offer from the MVFC may or may not have changed that.
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39 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:
we asked for 4-5 years and were told to pound sand. I am sure there are still discussions but we are in the Big Sky because the Summit/MVFC said no to UND over and over and over again.
I think your recollection of the history here is a bit muddled. No one offered while UND was slogging through the initial years of transition -- just as was the case for the AC and SDSU earlier. It was UND that cancelled the Summit site visit, a precursor to a certain conference invite, on the eve of the visit when the Big Sky came calling with a membership offer. Faison called that decision a "no-brainer." A formal football invite from the Gateway conference (MVFC) may have changed the equation, but it certainly was not a given.
Personally, I much prefer the BSC over the NCC 2.0. Travel costs, unfortunately, could alter the assessment by UND admin.
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12 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:Does it say print media can't interview coaches? My guess is if he wants an interview for a newspaper column, he will get it. I would guess he has always called the athletic department to get to Klieman in the past anyway. They won't deny an interview for a newspaper column. Do you think if Schlossy wanted an interview with Hak he just called his home phone? I don't think so.
There then. We have it on good authority.
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4 hours ago, gundy1124 said:
I bet those emails disappear. "HILLARY", where are you??
So ....
Great thread here about the knuckle heads at the AC big-timin' their local media sycophants -- who buy ink by the barrel -- and you want to derail it into what promises to be another tired political pissing match?
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10 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
I'll reserve judgment until I know what he was doing instead.
Loking forward to your update on this.
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12 hours ago, Csonked Out said:
It's an unprofitable sport in an area of the country where it is greatly affected by weather. The long term viability of the sport just doesn't make sense up here. I want us to cut the fat and let the athletic department properly compensate staff so we can be more competitive in hiring quality talent in the major sports.
Budget deficits. Conference requirements. Title IX. I understand. But if profitability is the criterion for elimination, we're probably down to men's hockey. And with more than a century as a UND collegiate sports, it's hard to argue baseball hasn't already demonstrated "long term viability."
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2 Groups of two seats available for Friday, 03/04/16, in section 114, rows H and K. $35 each ticket. Text 701 866-4075 if interested.
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2 Groups of two tickets (separate rows) available in section 114 for Friday, 1/15/16. Text 701 866-3872 if interested.
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You need to realize that the staff did not recruit either of these backup QB's. They owe them nothing. That is the harsh reality of college athletics and the reason why so many transfer after a coaching change. To have two full rides tied up in your 2nd and 3rd string QB's and neither is very good is bad for the team overall. Very bad. If those two are never going to play again, barring injury, why would they deserve a full ride scholarship from a new staff?
Again, I hope Bubba doesn't share your attitude. Last I checked, all scholarshipped athletes signed letters of intent with the University of North Dakota, not Chris Mussman or Bubba Schweigert. Personally, I'd be disappointed in my alma mater and its coaches if they didn't honor their commitments to the athletes the university recruits, as long as the athletes remain committed to it. And if success or failure for North Dakota football rides on honoring two scholarships, we've got much bigger issues.
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give Mollberg and Bartles the option to be a walk on next year. Only keep one if any, if it doesn't cost us a scholarship. I heard Heidelbaugh is sharp, gets things quickly, and his athletic ability is comparable to Studsrud. heidelbaugh is clear #2.
Great idea. Wonderful way to reward a couple of guys, both with other options, who chose to come here during transition, stuck with the program through bad times and endured the criticism from arm-chair QBs on this board and elsewhere while trying to run an offense with no offensive line protection and no running game. Sure hope this isn't Bubba's mind set. Can't imagine what that would say to would-be recruits about the program's integrity and dedication to its student athletes.
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Tickets still available. $30 each, or all four for $100.
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I have four tickets available in Setion 114, 2 seats in row H and 2 in K, available for Friday game vs Wisconsin. Text 701 866-4075 if interested.
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I have this email from September 2nd. ...
Thanks.
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So it turns out that the gay beating at the fraternity started as a fight by the gay guy, who just fictionalized events.
How about Kelley issuing an apology email to students after he accused them of being non-welcoming and discriminatory.
How about the bison trolls apologizing here too.
I must have missed something. I read of Kelley describing this guy's complaint as "troubling" or "disturbing" but I missed the out-right accusations of discrimination. Could you post a link?
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Correct me if I am wrong but the only sport the BSC support that the SL doesn't that UND participates in is football. Big Sky doesn't have baseball and S/D but the SL does. And as Faison saying the BSC was a no brainer had to do with a home for football, SL didn't provide that and the deal with USD going to the MVFC wasn't known at that time.
Hockey, football and basketball are the major revenue-generating sports, and those followed by a large fan base. Football being "the only" sport not included in the Summit is a big exclusion. Entering SumValley would split major sports between 3 different leagues. Not a good thing. As to the offer from the the Big Sky, any uncertainty about football was not part of the explanation I heard at that time from Faison, who described the Big Sky as one of the "premiere" conferences in all of FCS.
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Scoring almost 10 more points per game than last year, and allowing 139 less rushing yards per game than last year is better. Some stats are still ugly like turnovers caused by defense and our passing defense, but some things are showing a couple beeps on the heart monitor. The big improvement....2-1 including an FBS win going into conference play.
Laid an egg v Misery State last year but played a much tougher FBS opponent. Overall, early offensive stats very similar to 2014 -- but trending in the wrong direction. Defense continues to improve, largely with "Muss recruits." Shows what a solid DC can do for a program.
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UND to Summit/MVFC
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Speaks volumes about the institutional attitude of our potential new conference "friends."