Bison06

Bingo!

Every time this tax stuff comes up it just blows my mind the percentage of people who don't understand how taxes work. You think Trump gets paid as an employee the way the guy making minimum wage at the local gas station does? It's the system that's the problem, not the people who find ways to take advantage(Legally) of the way the rules are written. If he's done things illegally, than he should be prosecuted like anyone else. If not, and you still have a problem with it, contact your representatives and get the laws changed.

Tactics are tactics, but let’s not make the voter registration movement from democrats out to be altruistic. If voter demographics were to change in the future, we both know the democrats wouldn’t be pushing to be so inclusive. It’s all about winning, not about trying to be inclusive.

Genuinely curious, does this ballot have your name on it or is it completely empty?

And explain to us then how the approach you laid out at the end to vilify many here is different than our approach to influenza each year. We sacrifice a percentage of people each year so life can go on, knowing people would be saved if we did things differently.

Is that a small, acceptable percentage for you? That’s a larger number than the fatality rate for covid under 20.

Let’s say we have a serial killer on the loose. Up to this point, the killer has exclusively targeted women, in bars, after 1 am on only Friday nights. Guess how society would respond? I can tell you we wouldn’t close the schools or shut down high school sports.

I understand these are two completely different scenarios, so the comparison isn't nearly perfect, but why are we ok with taking people's rights away for Covid, but not for these destructive riots? This has been four months of this now.

Isn't there something that can be done that keeps all of these people off the streets? Peaceful protests sure, I'm with that. But we all know how this will end, can't they get ahead of it somehow?

The article you posted disagrees with you. He plainly states we will never be completely rid of this and we will need to achieve herd immunity at some point. People who aren't vulnerable to this virus should be doing the opposite of what you say. Why post an article if you are planning to disagree with it?

You don't even read the articles you post do you? They plainly state that herd immunity is necessary to get through this. They simply believe it needs to be done with a combination of natural cases and vaccination. So for now the best approach is to protect the vulnerable and let everybody else get it.

Which we?

Ahhhh, here we have it. It doesn't affect you financially so screw everybody else right? I love to hear from the people who have lost NOTHING during this time on how badly this has affected them.

Yes, herd immunity you science denying clown.

We better shut down businesses and school again then. We'll all be broke and living on the streets, but at least many people won't get a runny nose.

Another classic example of the media taking something that was not said and reporting it as if Trump did say it. People, go to the actual video or audio of what Trump ACTUALLY said on the peaceful transfer of power and stop being manipulated by the media. https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/elections/100000007359070/trump-refuses-to-commit-to-peaceful-transfer-of-power-after-election.html Please, someone tell me what part of this is anywhere near what is being reported.

As you are well aware, changing criteria quietly is the easiest way to manipulate data. Want to ramp up something? Include a few additional criteria. Want to slow it down? Take a few out.

Not refuting your information, simply asking the question. How are they distinguishing these excess deaths, which in this article are attributed to Covid, with deaths that are occurring because people are avoiding necessary and in many cases life-saving medical treatments?(which I know from personal knowledge of medical facilities in my area is a very real reality, chemo, dialysis etc.

I don't know either and the stats can be mind numbing to sift through. Let's simplify it, which may make it inaccurate, but for discussion's sake wouldn't it make sense to look at total deaths in 2020 and compare it to other years? As the baby boomers get older, we were already going to see an increase in death rate from projections I've seen. So that may complicate things, but shouldn't the number of deaths be much higher in a year that we're having an epidemic?

I haven't followed the "excess deaths", how many MORE people have died this year than have died in previous years. That is your answer for how many died right? Or is that simplifying it too much?

I understand how these numbers work and that most people in our country have underlying conditions. So the kickback on the 6% number coming out a month or so ago was overdone to an extent. But it does highlight an interesting point that merits discussion. How many people actually did die from Covid? Meaning that it played a role in their death. We all know that this number is something smaller than the growing total being reported in the media, but how much smaller? I'd like to know.

Listening to health officials is important. Here's where it's important to understand what Fauci is and what he isn't. He isn't responsible for ANYTHING other than public health, so his advice has the narrowest of focus. His advice is to be considered as part of a wide breadth of knowledge that includes long term effect, economic factors, psychological factors etc. Fauci is in an easy position, all he has to say is nobody do anything even if it's extreme and draconian and he has fulfilled his duty as a health care professional, not as a representative who controls the final decision.

That isn't an answer. When will you personally see something as good news? Is it only about cases? Because we were told from the outset that this will burn through the population regardless of what we do for mitigation, we were just trying to slow it down. So why is cases now a bad thing?