Bison06

Who are these major league teams that you think UND is scheduling? Edit:Quick reminder because I know it is difficult for you, we are talking about football here.

You continue to provide half truths, if that is how you choose to remember it then good for you my man.

Well I suppose congratulations are in order then. I look forward to the pending announcement that UND football will be pursuing an FBS championship.

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You realize these games are scheduled far in advance, in some cases almost a decade in advance. Did UND cherry pick Idaho and Fresno St.? You schedule who is available. You're smarter than that, c'mon.

One of these days I'll learn not to be surprised when a UND fan brings up hockey in a football discussion. smh.

I could live 1000 years and I would still not understand the mentality of diminishing the exact same championship your UND football team is attempting to win.

You guys need to make up your mind. One day we have an inferiority complex and the next day it is a superiority complex. Which is it?

Thank you, I knew it wasn't just me seeing through green and gold glasses.

I agree with everything you just said. For anyone reading this THIS IS A BIG DEAL! You even quoted me. I am saying don't make it a bigger deal than it is by saying they are equal to KKK members.

You guys are hilarious. If I didn't have Bison in my name there would be people speaking up and agreeing with me. So much for a two sided discussion. You guys would have readers of this board believe that these 10 guys pissed on the graves and memories of dead soldiers and now I am hearing from ScottM that they are no better than KKK members. You don't think you guys have taken it too far? If you say so.

They're no better? Are YOU really that thick? Wow!!! You have really gone off the deep end with those comments.

I know many people who have died for this country and serve our country. No need to tell me what our soldiers do for us. Not sure how clear I can make this, nobody is being stopped from stepping into a voting booth in November. That is the right that our soldiers have fought and died for, to equate the two situations takes it a couple of steps too far IMO.

Why do I have to get back to you when someone at NDSU does anything, they don't speak for me and I don't speak for them, I agree with everything you just said. I also think that voter fraud is a big deal, which is why I have been an advocate for punishing the involved guys. I also don't think we should make it a bigger deal than it is, why am I being attacked for that? I would think a proud American like yourself would be all for treating each situation with the exact amount of punishment it deserves, nothing more, nothing less. To equate the situation in Fargo right now to anything in the Middle East crosses that line IMO. Feel free to disagree, but to tell me I am immature and need "real world experience" because I have that opinion is laughable.(Not directed at you)

So you think bringing up a fallen soldier in this situation is fair?

Please oh please tell me more about this real world. You don't know the first thing about me.

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I am not rationalizing anything, I am not making excuses for them or for the people who have decided not to punish them. I have been vocal since last week that this deserves a 1-2 game suspension. What I will discuss and stand up for is UND fans wanting to make this MORE than it is. I haven't said even once that I don't think it is a big deal. You accuse NDSU fans of making this out to be no big deal, well you are making it a bigger deal than it actually is? Which is worse? The truth will do, there is no need to sensationalize it further and make it a bigger deal than it actually is. It is already a big deal, just keep it to the facts without injecting these emotional scenarios where people are losing their lives for peoples' right to vote.

You don't think evoking the memory of a lost hero is a bit much? Considering they aren't stopping anyone from actually voting and the situations aren't even in the same universe I would say it is at best unnecessary sensationalizing and at worst tasteless. One is a group of people who have been oppressed their entire lives, living under a dictator, denied any human decency and faced torture or death likely every day of their lives. The other is a situation where nobody is losing the right to vote, nobody is being oppressed, nobody is going to be physically harmed in any way, if it is a valid measure it will be on the next ballot. How are these situations being talked about in the same conversation?

This is not further defense of what these guys did so do not take it that way, but why is the obvious being overlooked on this? These measures would not have made it onto the ballot anyway. If they needed fraudulent names to get over the number then they didn't have the numbers they needed to get on the ballot. Nobody's right to vote is being infringed on so there is no need to sensationalize this by evoking war heroes and their memories, that lacks taste to bring up in this situation IMO.

Why am I being named in this? You guys have a serious problem with lumping everyone together.

Marcus will likely be drafted.

I like beer, can I come too?

Coach Bohl answered that question in his press conference very candidly. He said he had known about the pending charges for "a couple of weeks". It would have been very easy for him to "take the easy way out" and suspend the guys for a meaningless game and it would have been done. For whatever reason he has decided not to, or someone has decided not to suspend the players and I would assume they have been punished within the team. To say that NDSU only cares about winning and rules be damned is not an accurate description of the scenario(you may not have said this, but others have) because they could have punished the players without having to sacrifice a win.

Don't change the facts to fit your argument. Coach Bohl knew about this weeks before the CSU game per the articles everyone is quoting. If he wanted to react quickly to this he could have very easily suspended them all for the RMU game, a game that we could have won without any one of our starters. So to say that the timing is suspect and he delayed the process to make sure two starters could play in the CSU game is disingenuous.