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Bollinger #1 and Caruso #1A IMO I think if Brooks could turn this program around and into a yearly playoff team/NC contender he might be more apt to stay longer at UND than if Caruso were to do so.

My bad...I thought I remembered Faison promoting him. I guess that makes this disastrous situation more palatable. Just saying...

Let's make no mistake that when Muss is let go that it will not be a "good" day for this team, program and university. Coaches and families will be put in situations of unrest and the unknown and without jobs. That is never a "good" thing. It will also be an admission by Faison that his hire of Muss from within the program was a mistake and the 6 years of "damage" to this program will be evident for a least a couple more years to come IMO. At some point a change will and has to be made, but as an alum and supporter of UND athletics it won't be a "good" day when a change is made...but this once proud FB program can't continue on the course it's currently on.

This statement isn't even arguable. One would hope it's that clear to Faison...

I totally get your comments...I'm just stating if you attended one of the 2 schools or were raised in this state your loyalty is pretty well cemented...whether winning or losing.

I have driven I-29 up and down for years for FB and hockey and have never seen "red taillights" in numbers up and back for FB games even in the '01-'03 golden years when the Alerus was full. These crossover fans obviously don't travel between Fargo and GF. Again just have not seen this crossover with those I accociate with from both schools.

Wow...you must roll with a different...and fickle crowd...cause I don't know of 1. Guess I need to get out more.

. But that is not competing for as was suggested. That's bandwagon and happens at all sporting levels. Remember those Saturdays of the Babich era...

Not crossover of "true" fans of the 2 schools. I know so many people in Fargo that are SU "fans" now but have no clue who Satter is or Hager or Bentrim. So you mean those fans?

I see your point... always nice to be seen with the super model until she is involved in a car wreck.

I guess we will because that just doesn't happen for fans of the 2 schools. My kids have grown up all their lives in Fargo and get nauseated by the green and gold!

Neither is UND...when it comes to the 2 ND schools there is little if any fan base crossover...especially if you were raised in this state. There is no one I know who was a UND FB fan that now supports SU or visa versa over the years.

No way too sugar coat those stats at this point...but it's early...and we are young...and we are nicked up...and we have played a brutal schedule to date...and wait til after Christmas. ("We" was used at Mafia's request. )

You don't ever ban anyone with "Mafia" in their name...

Wow!

And a new roll of quilted 2-ply!

Fargo's Red Pepper and the Everything Grinder with extra white sauce.

+1

Find me a player quote from that SU team please. When your "face" of the program/team this season in Hardin makes that comment it speaks volums of what has gone inside that locker room this season. This wasn't a 3rd string So. guard spouting off. BTW...my unicorn needs to be taken for a walk around the dewey meadow outside my house. You free???

Hardin..."We never came together as a team". Think any player has said those words under Bohl's leadership? Just saying...

The next 48-72 hours will say more about the overall leadership of the AD and Faison than anything. Unfortunately this might not be just a Muss problem...

I talked to someone within the AD at the hockey game last night...he said he "wouldn't want to be in Muss's shoes right now"! Said issues are no organization and little preparation and discipline within the FB program. Did say Muss was a "great guy" though...for what that's worth.

Positive notes from the weekend...I thought Chyzyk held his own with Rocco and Drake. Gaarder is playing some of his best hockey right now and the 3 Fr Dman that played last night are going to be special in a couple years as is Johnson.

+1 to all of this. My opinion is simple after watching this team so far...it is the square peg trying to be jammed into the round hole scenario game after game after... Either Hak misrecruited talent to fit HIS system or HIS system doesn't fit the talent on the team. These players are not dump chase cycle guys. No Frattin, Malone, VV or Oshie types are on this squad. There is almost zero support on every dump and chase which leads to no cycle. They use at best 50% of the ice to break out the puck from the D zone...25% is along each wall. As the guy who sits behind me at games and is a much greater hockey mind says repeatedly..."UND tries to play a NHL system without NHL talent thru out the lineup and it's just not working"

Seriously?? Rodwell is a SENIOR...not a Fr. Walking in shoes, heels, sandles or barefoot doesn't negate the fact he took 2 "bad" penalties...as the radio guys called it post fame but commented they wanted to say dumb. If you are fighting to crack the lineup and stay in the lineup those type of plays will get you a suit back on quickly. If they have enough healthy bodies no way he plays Friday...and that was Wilbur's point. Got it???