Siouxperman8
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My point is that the person that started this forum isn't necessarily an unhappy parent or player as a couple of posters stated. UND and Grand Forks are fairly small communities and word gets around.
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Not much of a stretch to believe that they could know somebody on the team or close to the team.
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KFAN beyond the pond segment this morning on how Hennen announcing gave UND advantage. Really? In your backyard? Move the tourney to Grand Forks next year and bring your announcer. And good luck with a Big 10 tourney in Madison or Detroit or Columbus! I guess it must have been hard hearing "here's your University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux SCORING...." SIX UNANSWERED TIMES!
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MN had more fast strong skaters than we did. Most surreal moment of the game was when the PA played Native American war drums late in the 1st period. What a bunch of hypocrites.
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The ones that matter the most are the current and future students and athletes. The tribes had a chance to support us nickname backers and didn't act. It appeared to me that they were happy to finally have the power and weren't going to help UND out with the NCAA problem.You sort of forgot about the people who, once again, matter the most. The ones who started these petitions. I attend all sports and wear the Sioux icon everytime I go, not just hockey. I wish we could vote on this next week, instead of a couple months.....
I also wear multiple Sioux logos every time I attend a game and will again today. Even if the nickname leaves I will continue to do so. It just isn't worth the price we are paying now and will continue to pay in the future to officially keep the name.
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Thou doth protest too much, me thinks.That's because of your own definitions, friend. You presume that only neo-cons, so-called, are cyincal about where we are. I am not a neo-con and you'd probably see me at a few rallies that would surprise you. Whether you're liberal, conservative or whatever, it would take a complete Pollyanna to think that our governmental processes are not completely hosed. It should be obvious to any reasonable-minded and thoughtful individual. Corporations have free speech rights (i.e. donations)? Really? WTF? That's just one example of how that massive and systemic failure has flowed even into the highest realm of the judicial system. Remarkable. If you're position is that only so called neo-cons can have that perspective, you really need to rethink your terms and your own perspective, possibly.
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No. Bull. And, what are you smoking? Where a representative government does not follow the will of the people who sent them there, that's problematic. If it's representative government, then put into action the wishes of the people you represent who are asking you to do what you said you'd do which is listen to them and represent their interests. Representative democracy, so-called, does not mean that someone gets elected and then disses the people who sent him or her there and simply says "I know better than you and, by the way, be sure to vote for me next time too." Why do you think there are constitutional amendments for this or that or why there had to be one in Minnesota to subsidize "nature" and the park system? Majority of Minnesotans wanted it but the legislature did not listen so guess what happens - a constitutional amendment.
Don't even start about us paying people well to make tough decisions and about them having better information than the average plebescite. They listen to lobbyists, the people who make the highest donations and those who will give them the best press coverage. the reason why all of them come back to their constitutents every so often is to actually give their constituents a false and baseless sense of security that they're actually listening to what they have to say. That's the point of representative democracy: Listen to what your constituents need and want and go to Washington or wherever else and fight for those things. If those things so desired or if those positions are out of line, they fail and die. We do not have "representative democracy" here. Representative democracy is not "you elected me to represent you trust me and I'll go do my job and I will know better than you and you guys just shut up." Rather, people take positions that are important in their area to a bigger area to advocate for them.
I'm a delegate here. You should see how those seeking higher office kiss all of our asses at these events and then practically ignore someone else who would be one of their constituents and who may have concerns to bring up. This little stunt by one of the guys was material in my electing to now support the other guy. I told the first guy that he would not be getting my support and I told him why.
Posted 11 February 2012 - 09:26 AM
Siouxperman8, on 10 February 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:I figure that there are 4 groups that signed the petition and are pushing to keep the name. There may be more but here is my list:
- Hockey only crowd - don't care about the university as a whole or the rest of our teams
- The anti PC people- Scott Hennen and his stable of neo-cons, they're gonna show the gov't who's boss, problem is the NCAA is a club, not the gov't
- Anti UND people - who want to do us harm
- Those that don't realize the harm that it will do.
Any guesses out there on % of petition signers that fall into each category?
Chewey - I support the petition process and I don't fit into anyone of those groups, especially #2 "neo-con" reference.
ummmmm - your response to this doesn't necessarily jive with your post above
- Hockey only crowd - don't care about the university as a whole or the rest of our teams
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I have worked with, worked for, interviewed and hired engineers from both schools.
No difference in quality of engineers from either school.
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Dear Cratter-Dear potential student athletes,
If home NCAA playoff game(s) are important to you, don't go to UND.
Problem solved.
We don't want to change our name but realize the damage that will be done isn't worth it anymore.
If cheering for a team with a Native American name is that important to you - please cheer for the Blackhawks and leave us alone.
One more problem solved.
signed - a former Sioux student athlete.
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I figure that there are 4 groups that signed the petition and are pushing to keep the name. There may be more but here is my list:
- Hockey only crowd - don't care about the university as a whole or the rest of our teams
- The anti PC people- Scott Hennen and his stable of neo-cons, they're gonna show the gov't who's boss, problem is the NCAA is a club, not the gov't
- Anti UND people - who want to do us harm
- Those that don't realize the harm that it will do.
Any guesses out there on % of petition signers that fall into each category?
- Hockey only crowd - don't care about the university as a whole or the rest of our teams
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Even if we don't get voted out the sactions hurt our programs. Period.
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And if FBS schools refuse to play you it limits your ability to be an effective D1 program. Minnesota and others have already taken that stance if it isn't a league or playoff game. Not sure where the petition backers get the idea that they will back down from that but it has been stated here.
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Actually, most of the people on this forum that are currently saying it is time to move on, are UND alumni. Some with multiple degrees or long family histories at UND. We are all proud of the nickname. But, we realize that the continued use of the nickname will damage the University that we care about.
100% agree. I was a strong nickname supporter at one time. I am a UND Graduate and Letterwinner and have that long family history as well. I have come to realize that this petition might be the most damaging thing you could do to the university at this time. Having to change the nickname isn't fair but life isn't fair and we need to make the best of it. The 'hockey only' crowd doesn't care about the rest of the sports at UND and are willing to sell them down the river for a hockey jersey.
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Go Ira.
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You dug this up from Sept 8th? Really- you don't have better things to do? I guess we were too busy beating MN again.
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That is why most of us will never cheer for them regardless of the situation and some people still think we should because they are a ND team.
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I read the kids twitter. There was nothing there that would justify some of the previous posts here. Might not be my style but I am sure more people than Fetch and Dave K don't like style. People have posted some stuff that really stretch the facts. I don't believe anyone really knows what happened. Sometimes kids misunderstand the schools interest in them or thier interst in us ( similar to the Woods kid in Bemidji). This kids Mom had a classy post and was complimentary of our coaches. Lets leave it at that. I understand recruiting is still going well for UND but don't have any other details.
I'm with Ira. I was wondering if he took some posts down because I didn't see anything too objectionable. Good luck to him.
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This is all a bunch of drivel. See Sic's comment above. Kelly and Faison could continue to fight for a lost cause if they wanted to, but we had 3-5 years to resolve it and lost at every turn.
Some fool's blog will not change that. It is time to move on and spend our energy to make the university and teams better, not try to save our favorite hockey jersey at the expense of the rest of our sports.
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I rarely ever question a coach's decision, but WHY did Blais take his timeout there? Team USA was steamrolling for a minute there after the shootout save and he let the Czech's back into it by giving them time to regroup.
And look what happened....Czech's lead 3-2 now with 7:00 left
I think the announcers mispoke and first stated that it was a US timeout. Later they said it was the Czech's that took that timeout.
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Are the games on TV at all this weekend? Really wondering about Fox College Sports
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When I was in HS in 1977 I saw the Sioux men's basketball team beat SD 87-84 in 4 OT. Hyslop was packed and the atmosphere was electric. The top of the upper deck was about 3 deep with people standing and watching.
Football - the 1993 SU game was incredible and lots of fun to be at. For the NC game I only got to see the beginning and end of it because of a funeral. There were TVs on in the church cafeteria during the luncheon afterward. The deceased was a big sports fan and the priest told everyone he would have wanted us to follow the game. Most people were pretending not to be watching while they sipped coffee and ate cake. When 'The Play' happened the place exploded as people jumped up out of their seats. Very surreal. I did make it to the next NC game and even though we lost it was a great time to be a Sioux.
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Ira = Connected
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I was at this game in the second row of the endzone where Jimmy scored. When the game ended the cops came out to ring the field. My daughter thought they were coming for my friend and me for yelling at the refs all game long. She was really worried.
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A public figure gets suspended from her job for 2 weeks for harassment of a student. That is news and should be reported even if the public institution she works for doesn't want it to be.