coach daddy

No one is saying the transition can't be made. Just noting that there is a transition to be made. Johnston's recruiting area hasn't changed but he kids he's bringing in have. He's getting kids that went to Creighton, Drake, and other small DI schools. If memory serves, their last year in DII, they won a national title so this was coming for a while.

You didn't get the memo?

The guy is a heck of a coach and most will tell you, he is "cold-hearted". I don't know of the history between Kimbrough and him but if he wanted to prove a point, he would do all he could to prove it. We are finding out, again, how hard it is to play at the next level. You know, we would have been a top 10 team again in DII. The jump to mediocre at the DI level isn't going to come soon.

If you think for one minute that these ladies don't know why they aren't getting as minutes as they have at other times, then you don't know Coach Roebuck very well. He is a straight shooter with his players and if their minutes have changed, he's told them why. Maybe that's why Baageson is playing more, she's stopped screwing up. He told her what to do better and she's doing it. Ergo, more minutes.

Good luck to the ladies. This will be the best team they've played so far.

Good luck to the athletes of UNO. He wasn't exactly a team first kind of guy. Coach Berhns isn't afraid to stick his neck out there is he?

Most of the DAC schools play UND, NDSU, USD, and SDSU as non-counters. They collect the guarantees but don't count them on their schedules. For the DI schools, it counts on their schedule. How do you think we won the DAC last year?

Well, if our freshman ever have to lift a gym floor, they'll be qualified. Can they shoot, dribble, pass, defend, or rebound? Those are the qualities we need. I get tired of coaches worrying more about how strong a kid is as to whether or not he/she can play.

bincity, you get all my respect today. For you to sit and listen to that bball team and report here is awesome. You must have the patience of a saint. I could no more listen to this trainwreck of a bball team than I could hold my hand over a lit candle. Thanks for the updates and Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!!!!

We won the DAC last year. Back to Back Baaaaaaby!!!!!

Totally agree with this statement. As a college coach you either go "quick fix", with juco kids or you decide to develop a program and recruit H.S. seniors, redshirt them and bring them along in your program. You can win either way. Coach Huggins when he was at Cincinnati was always a juco guy. Coach Gillespie at Kentucky did the same when he was at UTEP. I have no opinion on how a coach chooses to try and win. Be consistent and true to yourself. If Coach Jones believes H.S. seniors is the route to go, that is his choice. I hope it works. If he chose to go the juco route every year, I'd support that too. Again, I want him to win. I want UND to win. I don't care how!! My comment was just to keep discussion going and give input to what I believe the rules are for juco's DI vs. DII. Not trying to condemn Coach Jones for how he wants to do it. If it sounded that way, I apologize.

About the only real difference is that DI juco's have to graduate from their juco. DII schools don't require the degree. Finding talented juco kids with degrees isn't that hard. Go watch NDSCS this year. They've got a couple who will get degrees and could definitely help us. In fact, they'd beat us if we played them.

Amen, whoever you are. Amen

In this town, no one really gives 2 flips about basketball. If we had killed VCSU, this board would have stayed as quiet as church mice. It took a terrible effort by an average DII team (talent wise) to get any thoughts about UND hoops going on this site. I love basketball but this town does nothing to support bball. If any sport can survive in mediocrity in this town, its UND bball.

He seems to have had a very good week. multiple games w/multiple points!!!

Maybe not a JUCO from the state but, believe me, there are alot of JUCO players out there that would come in here and play right away. Iowa, Wyoming, Texas, and Kansas are great JUCO states. Lots of players who would do just fine in this atmosphere.

Fair enough. Your thoughts are respected and probably accurate. However, lets throw this thought into the mix. How many times have we come to this site and heard about how the coaches are responsible for the losses of this bball team? In my opinion, way too often. Now for those of you who believe that Roebuck and Co. are the ones hurting this program, wouldn't you want him to replace those who can't play w/others who can? Face it, this team has no chance at playoffs for 4 more years so it really doesn't matter who wears the uniform or not. That being said, next years freshman class will be playoff eligible in their senior year. Shouldn't we open some more scholarships to bring in others who will be a part of that team in 4 years? If we are going to blame the coaches, shouldn't we require change of players first?

This is a DI team only in title. We are far from a DI team in talent. Please remember that. Here's a question to start some discussion; I know we lose 2 seniors but how many players from this team will the coaches bring back next year? I say, half of them are gone. JMO

We struggle against those teams because we lack that type of athleticism. In DI it is more about athletes than bball players. The ability to beat people off the dribble or jump over people is what gets it done against DI talent. Our girls are good DII athletes but we have very few DI-type athletes, if any, in our program. Kimbrough for sure, but she wouldn't be a 5 in the Big 10 or Big 12. Guinn, maybe, but she'd be a 2 at the next level. After that, who? Next years crop is interesting, we'll see if the coaches made the adjustment.

I must have missed the part in the paper where he told them they weren't "good enough". He's coached a thousand games, he's on the road and down 40. He didn't give up, he (along w/whole team) got his ass beat. From the opening tip they got whipped. Guess what folks, its going to happen more than you think the next couple years. Wait til Keirah is gone...........she's the closest DI athlete we have right now. I'm telling you all again, this DI thing is a whole different animal. Maybe coach is even surprised by the upgrade in talent that they are facing. They'll get a split this weekend, maybe a sweep. But the days of 28-1 or 27-2 are long gone. We won't play in Elite 8's ever again. Get used to it people.

If you were really watching as close as you say, you'd notice that the ladies who played when we won those national championships weren't afraid of anything or anyone. Lil Pooh, Katie Richards, middle Pooh, etc. They'd tear each others hair out to beat someone. That, my friend is the difference in the teams of then and now. The last 6 years we've had kids who don't compete when the time comes. They get outworked on big possessions, take 3's at bad times, give up offensive rebounds, etc. We need to find players like the Pooh's and Katie, and Jenny Crouse again. Only then will things get better. It ain't coaching my friend, its players and heart.

Totally agree w/this thought. That is really all I was trying to say w/my writing. NDSU didn't change their recruiting habits and look where that program is now. I never dreamed they'd have 10 girls on their team and be sitting on 5 scholarships. Just don't want that to happen here. IF we are going to be a DI program that makes the tourney, we cannot recruit NE North Dakota. We have 5? kids on the team or signed for next year from that area. It isn't going to work. Get to Wisc. and the Twin Cities and take those kids who may be looking at Iowa St., Wisc. Green Bay, etc. and get them to UND.

Yeah, thats what was meant. However, it would be interesting to know how a kid from Kulm ends up in Michigan. Look at our roster right now, every average kid in the northeastern part of the state is on the roster.

I'm more interested in the girl from Kulm, ND starting in the post. Have to admit, I have no recollection of this girl. Wondering if UND and NDSU tried to recruit her or how she ended up in Ypsilanti, Mich.

If Mathison played his way ahead of Lehnertz, Lehnertz should quit..............today!!!