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Sorry, but that's the way it looks fom the outside. It seems like CK does just barely enough to keep the necessary people happy, but is never proactive. I don't see any of the passion he has for academics, research and endowments reflected in his actions towards athletics. I'm not saying I'm right, just that I haven't seen much to contradict this view.

Outsider here. Take my opinion for what it's worth. I would argue that, under typical conditions, an AD should have as much regular contact with their university's president as any dean of a college. In times of flux or transition, that contact should increase to the level of a VP. I don't believe that was happening here because the comments made by Kupchella in Buning's evalution all seem to come from reports he had read rather than personal experience with the man. I would further argue that most of the problems stem from a president that views athletics as a necessary evil, rather than as a tool and catalyst to further the universty's main missions. This attitude seems to have created small fissures that other problems took root in and widened. Just one person's opinion.

The NDSU/UND band rotation restarted in '99 and I think it continued until the games stopped in '03. (I had a part in restarting it.) I don't know when it was suspended prior to '99, but it obviously was before the UND Marching Band was disbanded. I don't know when that was. 1980's? Generally, the visiting band performs one of their halftime shows during pregame. Each band typically gets one quarter break and each gets to play when their team's offense is on the field. Sometimes, they forego that and just go by quarter. The home band gets all playing opportunities in quarters 1 & 4, the visiting band gets 2 & 3. Bands from other regions(especially from down south) also do a face-off after the game called the 5th quarter. The bands take turns playing one song a piece for about four or five repetitions. Applause and acknowledged respect determine the "winner".

Thanks. I may disagree with your opinions , but that was exactly what I was looking for.

Is it true that UND is effectively splitting the AD position into three jobs? They've already posted the Associate AD/CFO job opening and Dan Hammer made a comment on his radio show that there would also be a CEO and COO. Using a business model: Good idea? Bad? http://www.und.nodak.edu/org/hr/professnl.htm (1/4 down the page)

I asked this on another thread a while back and didn't get a reply(I think it got lost in the train wreck the thread became). What offense/defense do the Sioux use? The Bison use a run-heavy West Coast offense and a 4-3 Tampa 2 defense. We've faced three teams using the new spread offense(SFA,SHSU,CMU) and it really gave us fits. The thought of Appalachian State led by Armanti Edwards would give me nightmares if I was Willie Mack Garza(Bison DC). I think those three games will really help us against the Gophers, who also run the spread.

They're controlled by the same ownership and share the same building and some equipment. Legally, they can't be owned by the same person/corp, but there are ways to get around the law somewhat. The KXJB/KVLY arrangement is more about sharing infrastructure and administration than it is about programming.

Just wondering what offense and defense the Sioux use. The Bison's Tampa Two defense is susceptible to the spread offense, but facing it three weeks in a row has allowed coach and team to adapt(it's why many of us are confident in a victory over the Gophers). Taking on a more typical offense this week in WIU should be interesting. The run-heavy West Coast offense seems to work pretty well for us with the talent we have.

If you search really hard, you can find a few instances of I-A's travelling to I-AA's, but these are almost always the result of rivalries surviving the move up by one of the members. The WKU-EKU game is a good example. Both schools plan on continuing the games as home/home's even though EKU is I-AA and WKU has moved to I-A. These situations do not apply to UND(or NDSU). There's a 99.99% certainty that the Alerus will never see a I-A(FBS) game against UND. In regards to game costs, a DII opponent will generally run you $50k-$100k depending on travel expenses and who's paying for them. A I-AA will run $75k-$200k with the same qualifier. Home and homes are usually a wash, but many schools are asking for travel expenses to come to more remote areas like ours. I expect UND will have to pay $25k-$50k per H/H agreement in travel expenses; you're not negotiating from a position of strength(neither were we). You will get $100k-$300k per game versus I-A opponents during your first few years. If you can demonstrate that you'll fill their stadium and you'll play well, that number will rise. Montana received over $600k to play at Iowa and the Youngstown State/Ohio State contract was worth over $1.5M for two games. Don't expect numbers like that for UND until 2012 at the earliest. (Even then, it'll be due mostly to inflation; 2015 in reality) Make no mistake, the current size of the Alerus will hurt you. NDSU is bringing in $250k per game with current attendance(2007) and we haven't even touched our ticket prices yet. Season ticket sales are also growing at a nice clip. I figure we'll top out at about $350k per game in about three years. That puts us as one of the few programs that can do what Montana does: afford to pay for 7 home games. Will we do it? I don't know; but we'll be able to. I don't think the Alerus will allow you to do the same. A 35k seat stadium might be possible in the long run(I doubt it), but it's not the long run we're talking about; it's: "How will UND pay for the first 10 years?" I truly believe you'll have a tougher time than we did. You don't have the capacity to make a profit bringing in I-AA guarantee games. Home/Home's will kill you on travel costs(especially commercial to GF; probably fly to Fargo and bus to GF). Your fanbase won't put up with two or three DII's per year while NDSU has a straight DI schedule. They also won't stand for two or three I-A bodybag games per year to pay the bills. It's going to be tough. The best thing would be to expand the Alerus to 15k and forget about the outdoor stadium for now. I think that 15k is the magic number for a successful program. Of course, you need to fill it, but that really goes without saying. Well, I've rambled enough and it's time for food. Good luck to you.

Well, that would be a good way to get NCAA sanctions. Are you sure he didn't say 13 scholarships for men's basketball? That happens to be the DI limit. The limit for WBB is 15, though that might change depending on the outcome of this week's NCAA meeting. edit: Wow, three geeky NCAA rule responses in under 2 minutes. I think some of us need better lives.

I've been editing the commercials out of tonight's broadcast, so I checked out the first half. There were almost no good shots of the stands during the entire first half. The few partial shots there were, showed small groups(two or three seats) of empty chairs near the student section(big money season tickets) and a couple of empty rows at the very top of the visitor's section. The small groups might've been people on the concourse or season ticket holders who didn't show. From long range shots, the endzones appeared to be completely packed. If you saw large amounts of seats open, it was probably around quarter breaks, halftime or near the end of the game. There was also a moment or two around halftime when the band's empty section was shown while they were on the field. If you're criticizing people leaving during breaks, idiots who leave early to avoid traffic, or season ticket holders who don't show up for every game, you've got a long list of programs ahead of you. So, how was your men's basketball attendance last year? Your real men's basketball attendance. Those were some great sellouts there, weren't they?

My guess: The Athletic Facility Master Plan will be revealed with 25 years worth of building projects. Maybe a smallish athletic endowment donation(<$2M) to spice up the event.

While it wasn't stated outright, the Kolpack's article was based on the weekly GWFC media teleconference. If you read the GWFC press release for that week, you will find many of the same quotes and the same slant. I don't know why people here are making such a big deal over the article, since Kolpack's reporting that it's the GWFC coaches, not the Forum, that are calling the App/Mich game "not a huge upset". If the Sioux were in the GWFC this year, Coach Lennon would've been part of the same teleconference and the Herald would've had a similar story. I guess my point is, if you want to ridicule someone for the article, it should be the GWFC coaches, not Kolpack and the Forum.

<Bows to the Internet Spider and his Magnificent Web> Do you know when UNC got to 60? I know they were having serious financial problems when a couple of big donors backed out on their promised contributions just after the DI move. I assume it put their rise in FB scholarships a year or more behind schedule.

Not necessarily. Hawaii is playing two FCS teams this year(UNC and Charleston Southern), so one of them won't count no matter how many scholarships they have. It's quite possible that UNC is below the 57 scholarship level if CSU is above it. Hawaii has the option of scheduling 13 games, but they've only scheduled 12 this year for some reason; only 11 of them will count as FBS games.

It's on Sheyenne Street, south of I-94, at about 32nd Ave S. It's part of that new strip mall complex called Eagle Run. Hooligans is a few doors down, I think.

Not great. Being a private school, San Diego has pretty high tution($30,000/year), so funding a competitive program in the GWFC would be very expensive for them($2.5M+/year for 63 scholarships). Their previous coach was for the idea, but he's gone now and their AD has stated several times that scholarships are not on the agenda.

Yes, if you're 12. Now you're using youth tickets to make your case? As for the $14 "decent seats", those are all endzone seats. How much do your endzone seats go for? Oh, that's right, you don't have any. Ticketmaster tacks on 4 bucks to your tickets? God, you guys are getting raped. The 2 bucks we have to pay is bad enough. Apologies to everyone except star for the tone of the above, but I hate people using misleading information to make their case. Many on this board said that UND's delay in moving was going to allow UND to learn from NDSU's move. Well, this is it. NDSU used ticket promotions to rebound from the terrible 2-8 season as well as the lackluster schedule the first year or two. Guess what? It worked. Now that attendance is at record levels, the promotions are dropping away as season ticket sales rise and area interest fills the rest of the FD. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the Stop-N-Go 2 for 1 ended before last season. If not, I think it ended after. Again, considering we're expecting a season average of 17,000+ w/o major promotions, I'd say the idea worked. UND's current situation is not too different to NDSU's at the beginning of the move. Your average attendance has been on an overall decline since 2001(w/ playoff games) and you're facing the same type of schedules as we did. Adding in the difference in capacities between the FD & Al, you guys NEED to sell out your games to make enough money to pay teams to come to GF. (BTW, our SHSU game is a home/home and we're still paying $50k-$75k for their travel expenses. Get used to it; you'll have to do the same to get good opponents in GF and do it with 7,000 less seats.) I figure the current Valley Dairy Coke promotion is a test run for next year. They're using this year to sort out any distribution bugs and will advertise the hell out of it next year if attendance drops again this season. (BTW, you're already down 300) Now, can we please let this pissing match die and let the poor bystanders in all this get back to real football discussions?

Just wondering, was the Nike Swoosh in the logo deliberate?

A very small change in the angle of the eyebrow will make the face more aggressive. Tilt it up just a bit more and try adding a slight bend about 1/4 to 1/3 from the right end. Also, the angle of the eye needs to be tweaked a little. I wouldn't actually add a mouth; I'd put a jog in the profile between the nose and chin to create the impression of a mouth. It would keep it within the abstract theme. Another change would be to try flipping the "streamers". Instead of having them turn downward at the end, I'd try to find a way to have them curl upward.

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Well, Sic's comment is going to pull one more post out of me. I don't know why there's a small difference, but www.collegeboard.com has the slightly different acceptance numbers of 87%/NDSU vs. 74%/UND. I'm going to use those numbers since they also provide the detailed enrollment numbers I'm going to tack on at the bottom of this post. I think one of the reasons UND's number is lower is because UND has several prominent programs that are restricted initial enrollment. The med, law, and aviation(I think) programs all approve or reject your application immediately. NDSU's major restricted enrollment programs(pharm/arch) make their decisions after one or two years of classes. While it doesn't make up the entire difference, I think it's a significant contributer. Also, NDSU is in a growth phase while UND is not; that also makes a difference. As to the comparable quality of our respective student bodies, try the following stats. As you can see, the campuses are just worlds apart. NDSU ACT Composite Midldle 50%: 20-25 Average GPA: 3.33 Percent applicants admitted: 87% 46% In-state students 54% Out-of-state students 2% Part-time students 45% Women 55% Men 16% in top 10th of graduating class 40% in top quarter of graduating class 74% in top half of graduating class 27% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher 18% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74 18% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49 14% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24 19% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99 4% had h.s. GPA between 2.0 and 2.49 ACT Composite Midldle 50%: 20-25 Average GPA: 3.37 Percent applicants admitted: 74% 44% In-state students 56% Out-of-state students 1% Part-time students 47% Women 53% Men [*]16% in top 10th of graduating class [*]41% in top quarter of graduating class [*]76% in top half of graduating class [*]27% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher [*]20% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74 [*]17% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49 [*]12% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24 [*]19% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99 [*]5% had h.s. GPA between 2.0 and 2.49 stats from www.collegeboard.com (thanks Tony)

I don't want to go there. Stop touching me. I'll stop now. I do like the logo and the changes.

You're right, it is from 2006. I saw the enrollment data was from 2005 and assumed the admissions data was also from 2005. My bad. It explains why the numbers changed "so" quickly.

Interesting. Of course, that's 2004 data. Let's look at 2005. NDSU's acceptance rate was 89.0% with 3959 applying and 3524 being accepted. UND's acceptance rate was 73.7% with 3698 applying and 2725 being accepted. Makes me wonder what the 2006 and 2007 data looks like. BTW, take a look and the huge flip in where students were applying.