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Actually, ESPN did know who NDSU was before Wentz stepped on the field. They broadcasted this little program call "Gameday" a couple of times from Fargo before he played a down. They have been on the ESPN network of stations more than a dozen times in the last 4 or 5 years. They actually helped NDSU get an opponent for the opening game this year so they could come back and broadcast another NDSU football game this coming year. It isn't prior to 2011 anymore, even though you UND fans would like to go back to 2003 and start over from there. Maybe it would be a little different if you hadn't been late to the party. But unfortunately for you, that ship has sailed.

I want nothing to do with the MAC, WAC or Sun Belt, WAC/BSC bogus combo etc. I would be thrilled with the MWC, but it probably won.t happen. I am a realist. The only way a Dakota school goes FBS is in a watered down, FBS/FCS combo after the P5 split.

Yes, NMSU, Univ of Idaho, ODU, etc., they are in the National news all the time. And the more watered down the G5(or G7) or whatever it ends up being, the less money the P5 will be willing to share with the have nots of FBS. If FBS football was so profitable, why wouldn't Idaho stay in FBS and collect those huge pay days 6 or 7 times a year. They aren't going to any playoff game anyway, why not just collect the paychecks and publicity of being that bottom feeder FBS program? Who do you suppose has gotten more national attention in the last 5 years, NDSU football or Ball State, ODU, EMU, BGSU, etc. I was watching an NBA playoff game a couple of weeks ago and the scroll on ESPN has NCAA FB news and it was Klieman signing a 6 year contract extension. How many times has NDSU football been takled about on the national sports scene in the last 4 months?

The only advantage I can see of going to an FBS WAC is it would be a lot easier to go undefeated in conference play than in an FCS MVFC.

So a few day ago after the Idaho prez announced the move down you said he did it to pressure the NCAA to make the rule change. Now you say the WAC and BSC can merge now without any rule changes. Which is it?

My guess is the amounts in the Miller column are the actual ticket revenues not including the CC fees, which is given the the athletic department in the annual CC's donation. But why is the REA getting the revenue from football games being played in the Alerus Center?

Unless the Ralph can seat 25,000, they aren't taking in 10 million a year. At $420/ticket for the public and $335 for faculty and staff for season tickets, saying there are a little under 10,000 non students tickets, I would say ticket revenue is very close to Mr. Millers $3-4 million than your $10 million.

Why is ticket revenue for football games in the Alerus Center going to the REA?

It must not cost much in Champions Club dues for women's hockey tickets, but it must cost something, since there was a dollar figure for it. At $15/ticket with 5 to 6 thousand paying fans per game, that $410,000 figure for football tickets seems reasonable. Are There really 25 home mens hockey games a year? That seems high to me. And if the Champions Club is taking in $4.5 million a year and giving less than $3 million to UND athletics, what are they doing with the other $1.5 million?

It is called pie in the sky pulled it out of my a@@ thought. UND has athletic budget concerns that moving to FBS won't help. UND's football ticket revenue in 2015 was $410,000. Moving to FBS with the same teams on the schedule will not remedy that. They will still have the same problems filling seats. NDSU takes in more for ONE home game than UND does for an entire season.

Yes, if that Burgum fellow had just gone to UND he may have made it as an executive...

If there ever was a realistic plan for the BSC to go at least partially FBS, why would Idaho announce now that they were going to join the BSC and drop down to FCS. Why wouldn't they play out the next two years in the Sun Belt and not announce a definite plan for another year or two after the BSC has announced an FBS move? They would not announce a drop down now if they didn't think it was their only option. If there was a realistic chance for the BSC to go FBS, there is no way they make this announcement now and take the PR and recruiting hit and start paring down scholarships. My guess is that they are getting better info from the conference office than SV is getting.

Most likely yes. There are exceptions though, it just depends on what the kid is looking for. Ellefson and Stick turned down Big 10 offers, but it doesn't happen very often.

None of the BSC has shown much interest in moving to FBS. Now Fullerton is talking about 2 separate FCS divisions for BSC football. Maybe he isn't as tuned in to the upcoming rule changes from the NCAA as you are. Maybe you could fill him in. He isn't exactly helping to promote you dream. Maybe not every school in the BSC is in as good of shape financially as UND.

It sure is. I can already feel the outrage across the country of "How can we let the Univ of Idaho move down to FCS". Don't you have to actually have to have the public realize that you play FBS football to really try to play a PR move to get people outraged about moving down? Now it sounds like Fullerton is talking about separate Big Sky divisions for football, but both divisions FCS.

So the P5 conferences are so worried about losing 3 bottom feeder FBS schools that they can beat up on theat they are willing to add 30+ FBS schools that have no business moving up? They would be willing to pull in another 30 schools to split up the revenue even further? It doesn't sound like the greedy P5 schools to me. The P5 conferences are encouraging scheduling other P5 schools to increase their strength of schedule anyway, I don't think losing 3 bottom feeder G5 schools will matter much when there have been more than 3 FCS schools to take their place in the last 2 or 3 years.

But the other conferences don't have the Univ of Idaho Vandals. Get with it. The other FBS conferences won't be able to rest until they get the Vandals back into the fold. Haven't you read the message boards all over the country clammoring the get Idaho back in the FBS?

Sorry, I didn't imply that the size of NFL players contracts made other NFL players making lesss money insignificant in their accomplishments. Kuper and Kleinsasser were very good college and NFL players. And Ratelle is also and I sincerely hope he makes a team. And I think he will, I just hope somebody gives him a chance at LB. He and DeLuca would have made quite the LB combo if they were on the same team. I wish NDSU had him. Nobody would have been able to run on them.

Nobody is trying to push the NCAA to allow NDSU to go FBS just like NOBODY outside of Idaho cares that The Univ of Idaho has no FBS home and has to drop down. Actually, very few people in Moscow, ID even care.

Will Ratelle may not get drafted, but he will make an NFL roster. It may be better for him to sign as a FA and pick the best situation for himself. He is just a very good FB player and I would hope somebody gives him a shot at LB. He could be a London Fletcher like LB.

That was just a good ol fashioned gypsy brawl. We are talking about the random violence of tipping cars after winning a game. Like Noiseinsidemyhead said, WHY!

Well, IF he goes #1 or #2, Mariotta got a little over $40 million at #2 last year.

Ok. 6'3" 220 lb linebackers don't go FCS very often. And you are welcome. I will keep it coming...

Well when you compare populations like most UND fans like to do when you consider support for their team, 2 cars overturned is like hundreds in Detroit. And a gathering of 500 people is like tens of thousands in Detroit which would be a major problem.

So is Grand Forks the new Detroit now? Murders, robberies, drug dealers and now overturning cars and rioting when the city wins a Championship?