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Bad Eagle: You will be happy to know that Billy Mills was only able to get 25 people to his speaking engagement. It got very little press and no press at all about him denouncing the Sioux nickname. I myself polled 15 people by telling them that Billy Mills was going to be speaking at UND. 14 of them said Who is Billy Mills and the 15th said Who is Billy Mills. Oh yeah, isn't he that runner. I can guarantee you if Dr. David Yeagley was here for a speaking engagement, people would know who he is. I find it very interesting that there is a program titled "When Cultures, Money and Athletics Clash: The Psychological Impact of the Fighting Sioux Nickname and Logo on American Indian and non-Indian Students at UND" taking place at 1 p.m. on Friday. This is all part of the week long Time-Out Wacipi event taking place at UND. I find it interesting because the Time-Out Wacipi week-long even was being advertised during hockey games at the one an only Ralph Engelstad Arena. I don't understand why they would advertise in the very place they consider racist. Go figure.

Well, it's been almost 12 hours since an NDSU fan has come up with an excuse for what happened on Saturday night. I guess they need their rest. bisonguy I have a problem with a "Sioux suck" comment being deemed racist. Nearly anybody could come up with a "more racist" comment than "Sioux Suck!" But it seems NDSU has a problem with "Sioux Suck" because NDSU doesn't want to use the name Sioux anymore because it "provokes" students into saying Sioux Suck which is deemed racist by NDSU. And the beat goes on...

The UND coaches did not interact with the crowd until an NDSU fan felt it was OK for him to put his arm around one of the female UND coaches and make a deragatory comment about the team. That is when the other coach stepped in. He only stepped in to get the fan off of the female coach. I'm not sure if this was before or after the fans were spitting on the UND coaches and team.

JBB - Who are you referring to when you say sue? I sure hope that isn't a discriminatory comment toward the "Sioux" coaching staff. What does NDSU want from UND next? That we only hire white coaches so we don't provoke the fans into saying racist and discriminatory chants and cheers. I'm sure all this happened because of the Sioux nickname right? Give me a break.

In Grand Forks the games will be on Channel 8 (WDAZ) and Channel 23 (FSN - Fighting Sioux Network). The games will also be telecast on all Midcontinent Cable systems in North Dakota and Minnesota that are a part of the Fighting Sioux sports network. Also, for all Sioux fans that do not live in Grand Forks or are not a part of FSN you can view both games on the internet at www.wdaz.com

Hey JBB, how about the mocking that NDSU did towards UND students with the t-shirt "I think, therefore I do not attend UND". How would that rank up there with other forms of socially acceptable bevahior. Rememeber, people in glass barns should not cast stones. And at least people know the name of our coach.

SDSUFAN: The organization, BRIDGES, that came to your campus to educate you about racism is the very same organization that refers to Dana Williams as their webmaster/slave. That's right SLAVE! Until they practice what they preach they have no credibility as an organization that educates people on racism. Maybe Sen. Lott has been educating BRIDGES.

Taz or anybody! Do you have a copy of the DeLand column. I couldn't find it on their website anymore.

Sorry, I didn't thoroughly check my facts either. It was apparently the Princeton paper that had the stuff in about running all over the Sioux because they are so small. But I'm assuming they were still ticked off about it on Saturday. It sounds like Dean is going to take Hale, Spiewak and Fuhr. He is planning on playing only 5 defensemen on Friday. Marvin will probably be seeing forward time on Friday. He can play either position so that helps. I tried to let my voice be heard by telling the sports editor that I'd rather there was nothing but box scores in the paper than the embarrasing story that ran Sunday. Unfortunately it's hard for the sports department to double check info. There isn't really anyone they can call when Virg doesn't go to away games. And unfortunately they are so busy with other sports going on (like there is another sport. Peleaze!) they don't have time to listen to the game on the radio. The only games Virg usually doesn't go to are the ones in Alaska because of the time difference and non-conference far away games like Princeton and Yale.

Of course one thing they neglected to print in the Yale Daily News was the fact that Josh Siembida was spit on by one of the Yale players when he went down on the ice. And if you were listening to Hennessey on the radio the first guy to start swearing at Tim, not the second guy who wanted to take him outside, but the first one, just happens to be the Athletic Director at Yale. Hard to believe an Ivy League Athletic Director would do something like that. McMahon was the first one to go after Higgins. He was standing up for his player that was laying on the ice without a helmet and twitching. It may not have been an intentional dirty hit by Higgins (even though the Yale paper quoted players saying there were going to do just that) but McMahon didn't have the option of seeing the tape before responding to what looked like a dirty hit. In the past out players have taken a beating, especially goalies, without standing up for ourselve. It's nice to see them standing up for each other.

Funny how Lucia changes his tune. When he recruited Parise he told him that he would create a line around him and he would be the go-to freshman and that he would be the guy to "carry the mail." Good thing Parise didn't believe his obvious lies. Let's face it former Lucia fans...he is now a Gopher. They have turned him. I wonder if they used the infamous Woog hat trick. p.s. How drunk is Woog come the 3rd period?

As much as I dislike agreeing with JBB or any Bison fan for that matter, I have to agree that the coach from Mankato is a little out there. I'm not just saying this because the Sioux lost. I don't like losing, but I'm not a sore loser. I'm just saying that I saw first hand how psychotic this coach is. Why he didn't get an unsportsmanlike conduct for going out on the field and yelling at a ref is beside me. I also heard, and this pains me to say, that he may have made up the whole racial slurs thing at NDSU to try and take some of the heat off of him and his players. 4 misconduct penalties!! I think it's becoming too easy to point fingers at UND and NDSU and cry racism.

I checked out the website for BRIDGES and find it very interesting that they would refer to their webmaster, Dana Williams, as a slave. I'm wondering how it is ok for them to use such a derogatory and offensive term such as slave and at the same time say that using the Sioux nickname is derogatory and offensive. Just something I observed that made me go hmmmm.

Story by David Knutson, Grand Forks Herald, Dec. 22, 2000 SAME NAME, NEW LOGO SPIRIT LAKE SENDS UND ITS SUPPORT TRIBAL CHAIRMAN WANTS TO SEE `SOMETHING POSITIVE' Spirit Lake Nation's Tribal Council sent a resolution to UND President Charles Kupchella offering support for the Fighting Sioux nickname. Tribal Chairman Phillip Skip Longie said the resolution was an attempt to bring about an end to the nickname issue. I'd like something positive to come out of this whole thing, Longie said. This is going to come up again and again and again. If the university doesn't do something to take a stand, to do something positive, it will keep coming up. Longie wouldn't reveal what was included in the resolution, referring questions about it to Kupchella. Kupchella said he can't comment about the resolution because he hasn't seen it. He said he doesn't know what is in it. The president did say he talked with Longie about a week ago and Longie told him the resolution was positive. Earlier this month the Great Plains Tribal Chairmen Association reaffirmed an earlier resolution asking UND to change the Fighting Sioux nickname. Some Sioux people find the name offensive. Longie said he wasn't pleased by the action taken by the state Board of Higher Education in voting unanimously to retain the nickname. How many Sioux are on that board, he replied when asked about the board's action Friday. In fact, Longie said he thought Kupchella still had to make a decision over the name despite the board's vote. He added that at a recent meeting with 184 elderly members of the tribe, the issue was split down the middle, as far as supporters and opponents of the Fighting Sioux nickname. Longie also said he supported UND's recent events held to showcase Native American culture and tradition. I think it is an excellent idea, he said, adding that more events would be beneficial. DISSENSION Not all tribal leaders in North Dakota were offering support for the nickname, though. Jess Taken Alive, a tribal council member at Standing Rock Indian Reservation and former tribal chairman, said state officials have switched positions on who should decide the matter. It's supposed to have been a local issue, said Taken Alive, who served as a member of UND's nickname commission. That was the response we got from the Legislature in 1999. Tribal leaders asked the Legislature to drop the nickname, he said, but lawmakers argued the matter was one for UND's president to decide. Taken Alive also said he wasn't surprised by the action taken. UND's investigation into the controversy was not sincere, he said. It was just a way to placate us, he said of the nickname commission. You could see that from the beginning.

Story by Ian Swanson, Grand Forks Herald, March 10, 2000 STANDING ROCK ELDERS GROUP BACKS UND'S USE OF `SIOUX' A group of elders at the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation has given its support to UND's use of the Fighting Sioux nickname. In a letter to UND President Charles Kupchella, the Hunk- papa Treaty Council of Elders at Fort Yates, N.D., states its endorsement of the nickname. Headsman Joseph Walker of the Oceti Sakowin Elders of Standing Rock wrote the letter, which states that the group endorses the nickname because it represents that the Sioux people have never given up, even when we faced overwhelming adversity in the forms of military power. The group that wrote the letter is one of eight such groups on the Standing Rock reservation. All are covered under the Hunkpapa Treaty. None of the groups are elected bodies. All are honorary groups joined by tribe members who are elderly, or who are considered elders because of their knowledge of tribal customs. The Standing Rock Sioux Tribal Council is the elected governing body of the Standing Rock Reservation. It passed a resolution in 1992 urging that UND discontinue using the Fighting Sioux nickname and reaffirmed that resolution in 1998. UND media relations coordinator Peter Johnson said the letter written by Walker would be included in a packet of information that will be given to members of a commission appointed by Kupchella to study the nickname issue. The packet also includes the Standing Rock Sioux Tribal Council resolution.

Ryan Cheshire, Sarah Benson, Kristi Schatz, Jodi Pariseau, Stephanie Stiel and 62 other students at the UND School of Law wrote a letter in the Grand Forks Herald on Wednesday, April 10, 2002: "It is the feeling of many students at the UND School of Law that a Fargo Forum article of April 3 titled UND law school opposes moniker either deliberately or recklessly portrayed the law school's opinion on the Sioux name. It should be stated that the only persons who voted for the resolution discussed in the Forum's article were the following tenured and tenure-track professors: Professors Candace Zierdt, Barbara Vogelwede, Jim Grijalva, Kathrine Rand, Alan Romero, Thomas Lockney and law school Dean W. Jeremy Davis. As the Forum states in its article, there are about 200 students at the UND School of Law. However, those 200 did not necessarily support the resolution. The student body and staff at the school purposely were left out of the resolution vote. While some of the students may support the name change, many do not. Even those students who do support the change did not have a vote to back the resolution. To state that the UND law school supports that change because seven tenured and tenure-track professors felt this way in unarguably inaccurate." etc. etc.

So, what do we do now? I went to the UND Republican website and Steve Symes was the contact person. Does anyone know if the law school students have an organization? We need to start a campaign to get Dr. David Yeagley to this campus to speak. I'm tired of these "so called forums" put on by Bridges and other groups on campus that are a one-sided forum for changing the Sioux nickname. In the Webster's New World College Dictionary a forum is described as "an assembly, place, radio program, ect. for the discussion of public matters or current questions, an opportunity for open discussion. So, I ask, who will invited to this "so called forum" for keeping the name?