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  1. I say there is ZERO chance that UND academia nuts and name-change groups will even remotely consider the thought of naming the team after a group of WHITE soldiers who charged up a hill and killed SPANISH soldiers. Zero.

    Rough Riders: ... a diverse bunch of men consisting of cowboys, gold or mining prospectors, hunters, gamblers, Native Americans and college boys; all of whom were able-bodied and capable on horseback and in shooting.

    You're probably right, but the Rough Riders were more diverse than you give them credit for. And the Spanish Soldiers they were fighting were basically white Europeans, so the minority card needn't come into play, either.

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  2. Does Roughnecks or Roughneckers resonate with anyone, playing on the state's oil and gas exploration history?

    Others I've been kicking around in my head, include:

    Wheatkings

    Sodbusters

    Homesteaders

    Riverboaters

    Plainsmen

    Pride (a lion could be used as a mascot in this regard)

    Rough Riders

    Nakota

    Norse

    Badlanders

    Remember, many of the nicknames of other universities that we accept as "ok" or "pretty cool," were probably regarded as "lame" at one time, too, but because we've grown up with them, they've somehow become accepted and interwoven in the fabric of said institution.

    Rivalry aside, imagine if Minny had a different nickname, and it was us that chose the name "Gophers." To me, that name seems pretty lame on the surface, but because of the tradition and history that it carries in Minnesota and because generations there have grown up with it, it's a source of pride and you'd be hard pressed to find any of its fan base who's ashamed of it today.

  3. And the only real-life example that was brought up was pulled out of a direct quote from then-UND coach Dean Blais after a game. That doesn't really count for what we are discussing here. If we get stuck with "Green and White", it will be Wayne Nelson's fault because he started the practice and then everyone else just followed his lead.

    It was going on long before Wayne was an employee of the Herald. Hell, it was going on long before Wayne was even the editor of the Jamestown Sun -- way before his days at the Herald. We're talking about back in the days when Virg Foss was a clean shaven cub reporter fresh out of St. Olaf College.

  4. Below you will find a list of college program nicknames from schools of all shapes and sizes, some under NCAA authority and others not.

    My point is this, imagine being the first students or alumni or stakeholders in your schools to be slapped with nicknames like any of the ones below. I am sure it would take some time to warm up to them. Now, some of the nicknames below have an odd connection to the school or the region that the school is in, I realize that, so they make a little sense. Others, though, are very random -- I mean, Youngstown Penguins? C'mon. Maybe there's local folklore or a legend that would explain situations like that, who knows?

    Even the well established and nationally accepted nicknames of today like the Ducks for Oregon, or the Kangaroos of UMKC, or the Gamecocks of South Carolina must have had an uneasy growing period for popularity at one time. Now those students, fans and alumni wear their odd nicknames across their chest like a badge of honor. They think it's clever and original, I guess. They might be right.

    My guess is the same will happen here at UND, eventually.

    Anyway here's my list; there are more:

    Hokies

    Ducks

    Bonnies

    Anteaters

    Loons

    Fighting Squirrels

    Gorloks

    Poets

    Zips

    Great Danes

    Greyhounds

    Kangaroos

    Threshers

    Polar Bears

    Judges

    Bridges

    Vulcans

    Tartans

    Mules

    Maroons

    Camels

    Fight'n Blue Hens

    Gila Monsters

    Purple Aces

    Stags

    Diplomats

    Paladins

    Hoyas

    Sycamores

    Prairie Fire

    Duhawks

    Chaparrals

    Terrapins

    Fighting Muskies

    Lobos

    Setters

    Lutes

    Pilots

    Anchormen

    Profs

    Red Flash

    Billikens

    Pomeroys

    Oles

    Peacocks

    Gamecocks

    Bees

    Llamas

    Salukis

    Mad hatters

    Orange

    Dust devils

    Havelinas

    Trolls

    Catamounts

    Keydets

    V-hawks

    Little Giants

    Argonauts

    Shockers

    Blugolds

    Wombats

    Muskateers

    Penguins

    etc.

  5. Whatever is chosen will be hated immediately by most of us old timers, simply, because we can't have the one we loved and grew up with. That said, the conventional wisdom points to whatever nickname is chosen will eventually be accepted by the kids, current students and new alumni and will gain momentum over time.

  6. Well, I brought this up last year and was told not to worry about it. :whistling:

    Thankfully, Ryan Bakken (former sports guy) wrote a column telling Wayne Nelson and company to knock it off and (for the most part) they have.

    Actually, I think you were told that the practice had been going on long before the nickname was a goner; in fact, the use of the term "Green and White" can be found in Herald archives going back decades. It is just more noticeable now as they tend to do it a bit more because -- shocker-- there is no official nickname to use. And yes, I wouldn't worry about it. This is what the kids these days like to refer to as First-World problems.

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  7. So that sentence has pretty much explained the aforementioned Trolls that haven't been nuked yet as well. As far as the physical violence, that's not good.

    True, but I also said that behavior, though, unfortunate, is not enough to revoke your participation on this board. My exact sentence is below:

    "That was all fine and good and would not have been enough to warrant banning, IMHO."

    It's the threats that popped up recently that crossed the line.

  8. They just want Miami for the vacation. I would love them to play Colorado at Folsom Field. My relatives down here are diehard CU fans so that would be quite interesting. If we won they would probably not talk to me for the rest of that football season!

    That was a bit of an inside joke as Schloss is a huge Miami Hurricanes football fan. He's gone to several of their home games over the years.

  9. McGill's been moved to DB.

    Interesting. That surprises me given the big learning curve that tends to come with learning technique, footwork and other mechanics that are unique to secondary positions. Being this is his last year, he'll have to be a really quick study or be content with a special teams and/or reserve role. It made more sense to me when they moved Ivery to the secondary as he had more time ahead of him to learn the position. He's talented and quick, I will give McGill that.

  10. UND is a very good school and a degree from there is well respected in most circles. With that said, it's no disgrace or insult to say Notre Dame is on a different level. Notre Dame is considered one of the best schools in the world.

    By most measures NDSU and UND are very much on the same level. Obviously, in some instances one school offers programs the other doesn't, but by and large there is no difference.

    Which is why I always find it funny when people say NDSU is such an inferior school.

    Not really that surprising. It's just a juvenile reaction to seeing the same stuff about UND on here from trolls or on another program's message board. Goes both ways. We just have a lot of other-team fans (and a couple of supposed "UND fan" contrarians who like to feign indignation and argue for the sake of argument) on here that like to remind us that we are supposed to check our biased fanatic card at the door and see things from a realistic, informed, un-opinionated, pragmatic and unbiased standpoint. Makes for a boring message board sometimes. That's all.

  11. As I posted in another thread, the rumor is that contractors will start working on final salvage at the old REA as early as next week. They are going to take out copper and other metal that can be resold, old bathroom fixtures, pretty much anything that can be sold. Actual destruction on the building will start in late June. They are looking at somewhere around August 1 for the groundbreaking. First stage of the building is pretty much ready to go, they still have some money to raise for the second stage. That includes the offices. They still hope to have the rest of the money raised for Stage 2 in time to just keep construction going. It sounds like the baseball and softball teams will headquarter in Hyslop with some remodeling. But they will be able to use the IPF as needed during years like this.

    That's a very good bet. I have not been told anything that exact, but I have been told that it is imminent this summer. The State Board of Higher Ed approved its demolition way back in February.

  12. Tough to be the flagship when the school an hour away is the same size and is very similar academically.

    You can say "UND is THE flagship" all you want, it doesn't make it so.

    I don't think we have 7/11 's here.

    OK, so your unemployed; I was trying to be nice. :lol:

  13. Yeah too bad the Herald does not run a similar list every week.

    Oh they do and they have and they will continue to. (i.e. alcohol violations, suspensions, drug busts, child support neglect, fleeing police, disorderlies, etc.) This usually is all met with much chagrin and feigned incredulity by the Siouxsports community and UND admin. I've perused lots of threads on here about how unfair the GF media was to UND athletes.

    We can argue about Kristo's "side" of the frostbite incident and how the media reported it, but, for the most part, accurate accounts of UND athletes' run-ins with the law have and do make the news.

  14. Read my post which would exclude Herr Ralph.

    What does this have to do with the thread in question? If you're suggesting that UND hockey alumni give less time, talent and treasure back to UND than AC football alumni do to their alma mater, then I have to ask, what's your source? I don't know who gives more? They probably give the same. Who cares?

    Or are you just trying to be contrarian again? Stirring the pot for s & g?

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  15. Sorry, not familiar with who Dustin Iverson is??

    He's a UND recruit out of western North Dakota (Elgin, N.D.), at fullback. He's a pretty good basketball player, too. Evidently, he befriended a number of out of state recruits during visits to UND and kept in touch with them online. He was like a UND booster, recruiter and recruit all in one. Sounds like a neat kid who's really enthusiastic about UND and others want to be around him.

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