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I do listen to MY elders. Thats why I'm fighting the fight I am.

Typical rebuttal from your kind. "If we don't get what we want, then we don't want anything to do with you". You are a coward, but you know what? Keep you little hate posts coming, and I'll do my best to keep the rejections from the NCAA coming. Peace.

\\ Ake', thanks for thinking of me. For every Veteran that feels this way, I can find 10 that are against the name. So what? There are some things he is unaware of on campus. 1. The only Powwows / wacipi / celebrations that happen on campus are put on by Indians. We don't even have strong numbers of non-Indians attending our powwows, so why does he think UND should take a step farther and "honor" our Sioux Veterans. 2. Do any of you remember the Moving Wall coming to UND a couple years ago? Well the All Nations Veterans Group, which I am a part of, decided NOT to be a part of it, only because of the fact that it was held at the REA. How ironic was that to have our Veterans line up in front of a building built by a man who admired Hitler? 3."It would be nice if the name "Fighting Sioux" was looked upon as a name that honored all the Sioux men and women who protected this country by serving in the military, even though this country did not always treat Indian people with fairness." True true true, but UND is not the place to do this. I don't know how UND could Honor my Sioux veterans with Green wigs. I don't know how UND could honor us when we don't even feel welcome attending home games. 4. He names veterans he knows, we Indian people can all do that. Would it comfort you to know that my father/uncles/grandfathers/great grandfathers/etc all served with honor? If he spent more time on campus, I'm positive he would change it mind towards this issue. I know I didn't think UND was a problem until I actually spent some time on campus, then I found out how those on campus "truly" feel about my people.

sioux C.I.A., I will answer what questions I feel are appropriate, but even if I answer them, you'll still find reasons to dismiss everything I say. 1. How many of your children/siblings/cousins have attended college? My children are too young /my siblings, lets see, yes they ALL have attended college, 2 are lawyers, one is a doctor, and one is self employed /my cousins, well I have over 25 1st cousins, and some have attended college, but I don't have exact numbers. 2. How many of your children/siblings/cousins have jobs? 0/all/? 3. How many of your children/siblings/cousins are economically stable>not counting government assistance? Can you answer this? I was watching the news the other day and almost every other day they talk about your people sneaking over the border to get into this country. Why are you down there helping them? Oh wait, you are too good for your own people, I forgot that. 4. How many of your children/siblings/cousins can enter any room and know they belong because they were brought up with pride in who and what they are, not who and what someone else says they are? My children are proud of who they are. My 2yo can speak 3 languages, and my other children will learn them as well. I am full of pride. Even though you think I hate this world, I don't. I am here to learn what I need to so I can go back and help my people. Unlike some I know, I will never turn my back on where I came from/ my people. You are a third generation Mexican, and I don't know how much of your "culture" you have. But if you were similar to the Beaner friends I have, you would be able to empathize with the struggle of other "brown" people in this country. 5. How many of your children/siblings/counsins know that they are more than American Indian? Some of my cousins are only Lakota, so what are you talking about. more? You mean you can brag all you want about being Mexican but I can't have that same pride for my culture? I'll bet you I grew up more Sioux than you did Mexican. I mean, what is a Mexican, anyways? Technically, I think you are Native Americans that were conquered by the Spaniards, and since you have been under their control for so long, you lost your own language, your own religion, your everything. We the Lakota/Dakota/Nakota haven't. We still know who we are. 6. How many of your children/siblings/cousins speak and understand their native language? Many, Do you know your native language, or do you only know the language of the people that conquered you? 7. How many of your children/siblings/cousins believe that there is more to life in addition to being Lakota/Nakota/Dakota? Stupid question. 8. How has the name Sioux kept you from accomplishing your goals? No, but I know Sioux people and other Native people that have been hurt by this name/logo and have since moved on. We are more than a logo. 9. How has the name Sioux hurt your children? They are too young, but the question is, are the kids in Sioux kids club being hurt by not knowing who the true Sioux are, and only referring to a Nation as a moniker/logo? 10. How has the name Sioux made you less of a person? Less? Why not put this question, not on me, but on you....how has this _________(insert ANY mascot/logo name) name made you more of a person? I'm Sioux, your not. 11. Where is it written that the only Sioux are Lakota/Nakota/Dakota? I can't believe you, Miss Educated, would even be capable of writing a question as stupid as this. We are Sioux. We are Federally recognized as being such. Are you? 12. What obstacles have your children/siblings/cousins hurdled to achieve your dreams and goals You name it sister! We are still getting over obstacles. I mean, there's this University that even tries to make a mockery of my people, but yet we are persevering!! Can you believe that because they have a couple dancers out in the middle of the arena they think they are "honoring" my people? They also are getting a considerable amount of money from our Indian related programs being on campus, yet people are complaining that we shouldn't be on campus (hint hint, if the programs go, UND loses out on $$$ it is makiing by having those programs there (i.e., INMED, INPSYD, etc, etc)). Instead of trying to attack my people C.I.A., why not be proud of who you are? Embrace your Mexican side! I wonder if OTHER universities have the loyalty the people up here have to their MASCOT/LOGO. I wonder if people bitch at SCSU about the Huskies....or if they have a dog sled pulling program, or if UM has a lot of land just for the raising of gophers. No, do you know why? Because UND is one of the only Universities to be ignorant enough to use race of people as their logo. So to all that are reading this. Be proud of who you are. Cheer for your team, but leave the name of my people out of that cheer.

ps. this website was found at the bottom of the GF herald online.

American Indian - DNA testing Instead of going through all of this to "prove" your Indian, I encourage all of you who have children/friends that will soon be attending UND to check the "NA" box on the application. Instead of only 450 "so-called" Indians on campus, we could have 1000's....what a great concept!! If the NA box is checked, UND will not even question it. Trust me because I brought my BIA form w/ me, and they said they didn't need to see it.

Did you see I left on of the "A"'s off of NCAA?? Duh......

Rock on!! I'm sorry I don't spend my life thinking about this name 24/7 and can't read every single post.

This article is pretty interesting. I know you'd all be interested in reading it....over...and over....and over....lol. COLLEGE NICKNAMES: Courting disaster Article text remove by moderator -- please do not post entire articles from other sources, selectively quote

O---------------M--------------------G I can't believe that you say the same things that the people here say, " By losing that Fighting Sioux name and logo your Sioux people will forever lose their identity"....that just proves how much "Indian" you really are. And by the way, you can claim you Indian-ness all you want, but are you enrolled? Nope, didn't think so. No, I'm not an athlete (not a collegiate athlete, anyways), but what you are saying is that I need to be an athlete to feel the SIOUX Pride? How about being SIOUX? I guess that doesn't count, eh? I am Lakota to the bone!!! I practice my Lakota way of life, I am teaching my children Lakota, I am proud of who I am and who I stand for, and no one can tell me different. I'm not bitching, I'm only telling you the facts... and that is....the SIOUX NATION does not want you using our name/that logo to represent this University....how come you can't get that? I agree....lets move out of the past. But the first step in doing that is changing this logo, because it is the past. There was a time when you could treat Natives with less respect than anyone else, but that time has expired. Plain and simple.

Why does everyone and their dog have a comment, yet you don't want to hear what the SIOUX nation has to say? (oh wait, you DID hear what they had to say, you just didn't want to LISTEN). I too am Native American. the only difference is I was born into my Lakota tribe, was raised around Lakota people, and back them now. If you truly were Indian and knew of the problems we face here on campus you would back this change in a heartbeat, simply because it is the right thing to do, for ALL Natives. Ho hetche to.

Actually.......lolol

I can work on getting them posted here, but yeah, they were from the Fritz.