82SiouxGuy

And that new-fangled horseless carriage will never catch on either. That's basically the attitude you show toward online students. Turning away "vitural" students is basically turning away money. You may or may not realize it, but the majority of online classes are actually taken by people in the community. A lot are taken by regular students who want a class that may not fit into their regular schedule. Others are taken by people in the community that have full time jobs and would have trouble going to a regular class during the day. In both cases the student is still spending their dollars in town, and are often paying higher fees to be able to take the class online. But you just keep telling yourself that you don't want any online students. UND will keep educating people using the methods that the students want to use. That's called good customer service.

Pretty simple math, even for a Bison. I will walk you through it so you might be able to understand how it works. Gross payment of $300,000-350,000 from Texas Tech, minus rough travel expenses of $100,000 or a little more to charter a football team trip. That leaves somewhere around $225,000, which is what someone had heard UND received for the game. That is what net means, revenue minus expenses, with net being what is left. Do I need to make it even simpler for you Dan or could you understand how that worked?

And online is the future. Not all students will be online, but it is becoming a bigger factor in higher education every year. Not embracing that trend is wasting an opportunity.

The $225,000 mentioned earlier may have been the net after expenses for the trip.

I included them because I believe that a 9 team conference is great for football so that every team plays all of the others while leaving room for 3 out of conference games, but 10 works better for basketball and other sports. Good potential schools that could fill the role of the 10 school in the region would probably be limited to Denver, Seattle and UNO. I thought Denver was the best overall fit out of those choices.

Well over 1,900. I don't know if they will get to 2,500 without the NDSU game.

Overall Denver has had more success than UNC at Division I. Since Greeley is less than 60 miles from downtown Denver I don't think you can really separate them as far as sports viewership is concerned. People in Greeley are probably just about as likely to go to a pro sports game as someone in Denver. Both schools have their own fan base. I don't know how large either of those would be. I tend to believe that tSic is right and the presidents of a hypothetical league would lean toward a superior academic school in a comparison like this. Of course it's also possible that they would take both of them to try and set them up as travel partners.

Actually, Denver dropped down to Division II for a while. I believe it was 1979 to 1998. They went to the Division II National tournament at least 4 times in men's basketball during that period, and also made the women's at least once. The men's team made the NIT in 1959 and 2005.

One difference is that Nelson had a year to get acclimated to the WCHA before getting on that line. Putting Grimaldi at his natural position, especially at the beginning of the season, would help make him more comfortable as he gets used to the level of competition. Especially since he missed almost the entire year last year with an injury.

Agreed.

Denver has had 21 National titles in Skiing since 1954, the most of any school. They have a pretty good Lacrosse team. Basketball has been okay, and had some success at Division II, making the NCAA tournament in both men's and women's during the 1990's.

Appalachian State supposedly got $750,000 to play at LSU. I saw one report of $900,000, but it didn't identify the schools so I don't know if that was true or not. More and more reports in the $4-500,000 range. UNI has 2 in that range this year with Iowa and Wisconsin, plus Wisconsin bought them out of a game against Southern Utah.

I considered Northern Iowa and Idaho State also. I don't know if Drake would ever be interested in upgrading football by giving out scholarships again.

I haven't found any source reporting any FCS school getting $1,000,000 from an FBS school. Appalachian State is rumored to be getting $850,000 for the rematch in 2014. I have seen 1 or 2 other rumors of numbers in that range. So I don't see any way that Oklahoma would have offered $1,000,000 to a transitioning school, and I doubt that UND would turn it down.

It is a long distance from Ohio to Idaho and western Montana, so I don't see both ends being in the same conference. Even the huge space between the Dakotas and Ohio would be a problem for all of the Olympic sports, especially with all of the states and schools between. I like a base of the Dakota schools and the Montana schools plus Idaho and maybe Weber State because of their basketball program. Eastern Washington might be a decent addition if they could handle the move up. Add Denver and you have a solid 9 team football and 10 team conference for the other sports.

I don't know. I didn't ask that question. I would guess that some or all of it will show up in one of those spots. We will all probably find out in the next week or so.

Didn't Montana get something more than 600,000 to go to Tennessee? Those types of dollars are hard to turn down.

I believe you're right, but I couldn't find it in a quick look. The rest of the contract went away since they are in the same conference.

NDSU played USD 2 years ago. That was before South Dakota became part of the MVFC.

Not a chance that it's true. The Big 10 isn't giving them 5 non-conference games.

There are those hurt feelings again. It's too bad that Bison fans don't realize how sad that argument sounds to the average sports fan. The rivalry isn't over. Ask the average person on the street. Ask the players that chanted "Sioux Suck" after winning the National Championship. Just because they aren't currently playing doesn't mean the rivalry is over. UND stopped playing because it had a chance of hurting UND in the Division II playoff system. Also, as someone else mentioned, it is clear from the delusions of importance NDSU fans exhibit that NDSU would have dropped UND within a few years. After all, they wouldn't have wanted to play an "inferior team" from a "lesser division". They would have thought it beneath them. UND just put the series on hold before NDSU had a chance. And it is on hold, not ended. The schools will play again on a regular basis at some point. You come to a UND sports site spouting NDSU propaganda and you don't understand why UND fans don't just accept your "facts" as gospel? Everything you posted is deeply slanted to your NDSU point of view. NDSU is still a relatively new FCS and Division I program that has had good success. They are not at the same level as Appalachian State or Montana. Those schools have had a lot more consistent success at the FCS level than NDSU, at least in part because NDSU is still new to the division. NDSU is 5 years ahead of UND in the transition, but they are again at the same level of competition. Both schools will have some trouble getting quality out of conference opponents, without having to pay out of the nose to get them to travel to North Dakota. Common sense, and public opinion, will win at some point and the schools will again renew their century old rivalry. You say that Appy State doesn't schedule home and homes with a team like UND. Does Appy State have a century old rival that they are ducking? Do they have a comparable situation with a local opponent? No, they do not. You are trying to compare apples and oranges just to prove your NDSU slanted point on a UND board. You aren't going to win over any UND fans with that kind of argument.

There is also a difference between Gate City Bank Field, or Gate City sponsoring the field, and using the Alerus Center name and logo. If it were Alerus Financial anything, it would definitely have to be in simple text according to that rule. It would be the same as the Gate City situation in Fargo. I believe that the Alerus Center logo being used would be more similar to the old field in the Fargodome with the name and pinwheel logo being used than it is to the Gate City situation with the new Fargodome turf. But I don't know if it fits within the regulation mentioned or not. Considering all of the communications between UND and the NCAA in the last couple of years I would guess that UND and the Alerus Center have figured out what they can and can't do.

Your definition doesn't take into account 100 years of rivalry. That is something that most people in athletics seem to understand, but certain Bison fans are trying to hide from. That rivalry, even though it was at a different level, and even though it has been on hold for several years, still exists. Fans of other schools see that it exists. Ignoring that factor is just silly because it exists and is a factor for everyone else in the region other than certain diehard Bison fans that still have their feelings hurt. That is the difference between the UND-NDSU situation and any other scheduling situation you try to compare it with.

Is that a new regulation? Last week someone posted pictures of the old Fargodome turf and the Fargodome pinwheel was at midfield. For the Alerus Center, the logo that was shown in mockups at the 50 yard line was for the Alerus Center itself, not for Alerus Financial. Therefore it would be different from the Gate City Bank naming rights. The logo for the Alerus Center would identify the building, not the naming sponsor, just like the old Fargodome turf.

New UND sports show on Midco Sports Channel starts next Tuesday evening. No longer just a coaches show for football or hockey, the show will cover pretty much all UND sports. The show will run for 40 straight weeks, running right through the spring.