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It's going to be a long year, most likely two years before the Berry era comes to a close. Just sit back, as this may be as good as it's going to get.

Safe to say we will no longer be #13 after this weekend

We need recruiting....

Too soon for "Fire Berry"?

Moot point. The branding of the fighting Sioux was well established long before Ralph engelstad was even a student at the University of North Dakota. The logo has taken on different images but the brand was well established. He just happened to really like it... And of course when it's your building and your money, you can be as ostentatious as you want....and say your welcome.

In 2011 they came pretty damn close to having there stadium full. So again, winning speaks volume but it's conjecture nonetheless. But If the argument is that branding will win you games and bring people in to watch the team and adore a new logo....by all means then go for it. The logo, like everything else with this less than democratic process, is another forced undertaking of getting people to rally behind the marketing of the new logo. Having a pissed off chicken on steroids - logo isn't exactly something to oohh and aahh at it. When you brand a business, idea or school for this matter, you would hope that it's popular, inspiring, and accepted. It's none of these things, but it's what we are left with and have no choice but to look at. And having to accept it is one thing, and having to stare at it during a whole game is another. Were all happy for those that deem the new logo completely amazing, but if it were my building, I would be cautious about putting it on center court when it appears a lot of folks have yet to embrace the brand. Put it on a few shirts, mugs, etc....and let's see if it takes off. And until you see a hockey game with fans donning a hockey jerseys emblazoned with the a hawk on it, you probably wont see it on center ice.

Because when you win 6 national titles in 7 years and sell out every game, you can pretty much insist on most anything....(key factor being you sell out every game...i.e. hockey)

Considering there are thousands of UND graduates in Fargo, that's a healthy contingency (a lot of the MD's, RN's, lawyers, etc...are UND graduates). Prior to the name change, Scheels had a healthy amount of sales. Certainly not comparable to today's NDSU, but prior to the run of championships for the football team - believe it or not, the UND sales accounted for about 30% of collegiate merchandise, with NDSU at 40% and the remaining from other local and national schools (again, this was just from a conversation with the clothing manager). For UND's financial benefit I hope the new logo does generate a healthier stream of merchandising income. I personally don't new like the logo, but I support the University of North Dakota.

I have no doubt it's about the logo too. I'm not sure as to what type of sales the Fighting Hawk logo-name has generated to date, but the new branding may help, but it's going to take a monumental effort to get it back to where it was. Speaking to a GM at Scheels in Fargo last winter, he said their sales are down about 75% from 6 years ago, (and not from the mad dash of sales when the Sioux name was announced to be retired). They used to have a 200 sq.ft for UND merchandise, but it's now down to about 40 sq. ft. Sales are sales, so even Scheels doesn't sell all the Fighting Hawk merchandise, but I'm guessing it's a fairly accurate assessment of the current revenue stream as a whole. So back to the original argument - Yes we do need the KEM and their donation(s). If not just to help fund the other non revenue generating sports, but to help support the educational process as well. We win - there's money and everyone is winning, when we don't...not as much.

Unfortunately, we do. Most of UND larger donations either come from the older alumni and a substantial come from endowments and donations posthumous. The UND champions club has done well in recent years (partially due to the success of the hockey program and donations that were procured at the NCAA playoff and championship games at the alumni gatherings - i.e. Tampa Bay, which alone generated over $75K), but I'm curious to know if the Engelstad pledge is part of the champions club annual reporting or just a donation to the school. Nonetheless, even though there are supporters of the new nickname, the older alumni who donate purely from an athletic foundation perspective are not giving as they had. I've attended several champions club gatherings, and there are still a lot of hurt/bruised feelings with regards to the new logo (mostly upset with the process of getting the name), not to mention the loss of the baseball, golf, swimming and women's' hockey programs. It kind of made for a perfect storm of bad PR. Donations from BIG donors are very hard to come by. The school of medicine and aviation have done well, but donors like the Engelstads are often once in a lifetime. I'm very thankful for what they have done, but it certainly doesn't mean we need to kowtow to their demands, but it certainly means we should listen and take into consideration there concerns. Hopefully M. Kennedy and K. Engelstad can resolve this civilly with out further airing it in the public arena.

If that's the case, then why is Berry there?. A coach is responsible to get his playeres motivated and ready to play. And if they're not doing their job then the coach has to bring someone up or bring someone else in

True!

Chemistry comes from hard work and talent (skill - as you stated). Though at times they worked hard, they just lacked the talent we've been fortunate to have had in the past.

Purely conjecture.....but we will see about his recruiting skills next year. Good teams reload...and reload which we had done in a 10 year span despite early departure to the pros. Hopefully we'll see a much-improved product next year

Time to fire Berry?

Not over yet...but man SC is good. Great coaching, recruiting and speed. UND has there work cut out for them.

So just one all out win in 2018....when was the last time that happened in a 2nd half of a season?

Wow ...spoke too soon. But boy do we need some luck

This is about as bad of a game that I've watched in many years. So the skid will be at 4...how many years has been were we've played 4 games in a row without a win?

This season and team reminds me of the Gasparini late years. Living off the success of the past with little development for the future. I know it's only Barry's 3rd year, but I'm a bit concerned with the recruiting and just general lack of discipline in the players on the ice.

Yup. Hate to say that was the right call.

Dang. The lack of skilled offensive players - goal scorers, is really showing tonight. Defense has been fair, but our offensive output is rather poor. We play a lot of dump and chase and hope to get a rebound versus trying to make skilled passes.

Cam someone remind them they are on the power-play.

Omaha is doing a stellar job in clogging the passing lanes