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A pretty good summary, from an anonymous person with an axe to grind.

Joe wasn't exactly a PR wizard(the house situation was obviously handled poorly). What Joe had was a way of getting things done, maybe it wasn't always the "right way" but his success seemed to keep the detractors at bay until the end.

What part of potential deficit do you guys not understand? Why do you think he put the freeze on hiring? You collect the outstanding tuition, trim some of the fat, and hopefully when it is all said and done there is no longer a deficit. Hanson's statements seem to point to the budget being balanced when it is all said done, like I said before if Chapman had left a significant deficit then you can start with name calling and finger pointing. Call me when NDSU is asking the state for a bailout.

NDSU's budget is $275 million, the school is potentially $1.8 million over. It is a fraction of a percent at the worst, the school is hardly swimming in red ink. So unless this deficit grows a 0 behind the 1, Chapman didn't exactly leave a horrible mess in this instance. The house is a mess, his questionable spending is another(in regards to what the foundation gave him not state/tutition money), but this deficit is hardly anything significant. I have no problem with the hiring freeze, I have major problem in regards to how Hanson handled it all. PR is a major part of what a president does, fixing the budget is another but if you are going to run a University of this size you better be able to handle the PR side of things. But then again he is just an interim, he would be under qualified for the full time job and that is a major reason as to why he got the job in the first place.

Yeah, a potential budget deficit that is a fraction of a percent of NDSU's total budget is quite a mess. I realize Chapman wasn't perfect but some of this is on Hanson for lacking the PR skills needed to run a large university.

Well I have talked with the dean of business at NDSU and the chair of the communication department, neither told me anything about going to grad school for doing nothing.

Besides English, public speaking, and one lab, every course I took was taught be a professor. Unless for some reason the professor had to leave, which in that case a grad student took over in the short term. Of course you can teach a science or stats class to 200 students at a time while English, public speaking, and labs are all class sizes of around 20. When every undergrad needs to take those courses it can create a huge demand and I suppose the only cost effective way of meeting it is with grad students.

NDSU has over a 1,000 more undergrads than UND, so it should take more waivers for teaching entry level courses. Of course waivers aren't just for teaching they are also for research. This whole discussion is pointless unless we know where waivers were at prior to NDSU's surge in research and enrollment. NDSU is not just waiving tuition to get students to enroll, if you get a waiver you are doing something to earn it. Whether that be for athletics, teaching, research, or helping the University in some way.

That is life, basically every entry level English course and public speaking course at NDSU is taught by a grad student. Every student is required to take those courses, do the math. You either pay a professor a full salary/benefits or give a grad student a tuition waiver/stipend to do it. This isn't exactly something unique to college academics, but if parents want to pay more so their kid can be taught general courses by a professor I'm sure it could be done. Of course I don't think NDSU is going to win lots of friends by doubling their tuition. The undergrads need to pay up, and if they don't they can't sign up for spring classes or get their diplomas.

It is all smoke and mirrors? Tuition waivers are not given out for nothing. The increase in waivers should go along with the increase in enrollment and research. Grad students teach many of the intro level courses, if you have more undergrads then you need more grad students to teach them.

Tom Billeter, the guy has some solid DI experience and has done a good job at Augie.

Another name I would throw in the ring is Tom Billeter.

I wouldn't fire your coach until you have a conference invite in hand. Which could be soon, but I think it could be a struggle to bring in a good coach without a conference invite.

The football team trains at the BSA, but they do have superior meeting rooms and coaching offices. Of course that is supposed to be equalized when the BSA gets remodeled...

Shamen was a pretty good athlete two knee surgeries ago.

The MVFC is very happy with its nine team membership, it is the ideal number for FCS football, since it allows for games against all league members(4 home and 4 away) and of course a championship game doesn't make any sense. That said, I would love to see UND added to the MVFC, hopefully it will happen someday.

I don't know why people talk about that Minnesota win so much, NDSU beat a much better Central Michigan team by 30 on their home field that year. As for GVSU wiping the floor with NDSU, take a look at UND's record last year. The gap between the FCS and DII is growing wider every year.

I probably should have said women's indoor.... http://www.gobison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB...p;ATCLID=131044 I would hope the nickel can continue, it would be a shame to see it retired.

NDSU won an Indoor Track title in 2002.

NDSU did win 9 national titles in the decade leading up to the move, not exactly horrible. Football was inconsistent, but that had some to do with rules DII adopted, they were designed to hold the haves back. Chapman was smart to realize the importance of the athletics and DI, UND's hockey success definitely proved what DI success can do for a school.

Bring it on, it is ridiculous to not see UND on at least some of our schedules. There is no excuse as to why we aren't playing in WBB.

Bison fans belittled what DII was becoming, every year it is getting more and more watered down. I also think it would be hard to argue against the success NDSU has had in DI.

Douple has said schools from other conferences have applied, Faison probably knows who they are but can't name them since it isn't something the Summit wants out there. Don't put any stock on the Chicago State talk, they were kicked out of the league, and they will not be coming back unless the league has no other option. The only viable candidates are UND and Denver(assuming they are the school) and I hope Centenary drops out so both can be added.

I didn't see it either but fans have found out that a few schools have pretty good basketball programs(Oakland and ORU) and they show up to those games. There are some dogs, I'll admit that, but it is improving. Hopefully Denver can be brought in as well, I'm sure that name would attract some attention up in GF. I don't think it is worth it to give up your name for a spot in any league, I certainly hope there was more to the board's decision than that.

I'm going to be real. All the other women have died, and the Summit is all that is left. UND is one of the most isolated DI schools in the country, there are no bars, this is your only option unless you want to be alone forever. For the record I thought UND should have let the timeline play itself out, I still don't see the rush, and I don't care enough to hypothsize why there is a rush. The only thing I will say is that the Summit is your only option and really it isn't that horrible of an option. The conference is easily on par with the Big Sky.