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Let me preface this post by saying that I do think it is foolish for the legislature to get involved with mandating a football game between these two schools. But.................. If the legislature really wants to get involved they are going about it the wrong way. When this goes to committee and to the House floor, there are going to be arguments about the economic impact of this game for each school, both direct impact via gate revenue minus travel costs, and indirect impact via retail sales in whichever city the games are played each year, and how it would be fiscally responsible for each school to play due to the proximity of one another. Along with debates about how it will hurt NDSU, only help UND, and in general how the people of the state long for this game. That is all fine and dandy, but it will go nowhere on those arguments. Yearning for the good old days of the rivalry aside, if the state legislature wants to throw themselves into this on the basis that it would be fiscally positive for both universities, they should have left the football game alone and instead introduced a bill that would have required Noth Dakota and NDSU to compete in every sport OTHER than football. Football is fine at both schools. Both schools set new attendance records last year. There is little to be gained for either university other than bragging rights by playing on the grid-iron. The only possible benefit I can see is one extra televised game for the schools. If the state feels they need to act for the betterment of both schools they should require basketball, baseball, volleyball, soccer, and softball games between the two schools. That is where the real economic impact would be felt. Men's basketball attendance at UND is in dire straights this season. Women's basketball attendance at NDSU is in dire straights this season. NDSU men's basketball had a home-and-home with Northern Arizona this season. Would it not be more prudent to have a home-and-home with North Dakota just 70 miles away? North Dakota women's basketball has a home-and-home with Seatte this season. Would it not be more prudent to have a home-and-home with NDSU just 70 miles away? The last two basetball games between the two played in GF drew 8,900 and 7,200. In Fargo the last two drew 6,500 and 5,000. At this point, a North Dakota-NDSU basketball doubleheader in the Ralph would probably draw close to 10,000. It would surely fill the 6,000 seat BSA in Fargo. Who knows what it would draw in Fargo if they threw the hardwood down in the Fargodome? Then don't get me started on the "non-revenue" sports.................I can understand a state mandate for every sport EXCEPT football. Having said all that, the more I hear Gene Taylor speak over the last month, it would put a bit of a smile on my face to see this legislation regarding a football game pass. He continues to search for reasons not to play North Dakota. Twice today on the radio he reiterated the Summit League stance of not scheduling North Dakota due to the nickname and how the legislature is not taking that into consideration, apparently unaware that his school's football team is not a member of the Summit League, and despite the fact that several Summit schools continue to schedule North Dakota in a variety of sports. IMO, he has lost alot of credibility over the last few weeks, and it is apparent that it is not his decision when it comes to scheduling any type of contest with North Dakota. Also, I don't think this legislation will pass this time, but it could in 2011 if the schools don't come to an agreement by then. As several posters have indicated, this is not unprecedented. Iowa, Kenucky, South Carolina, etc., etc. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe in Iowa that the state mandate requires all DI institutions play each other in basketball, including Drake which is private?

Overall Record: 10-6 Last Action: 82-59 win over Mayville St. North Dakota Website North Dakota Schedule North Dakota Stats North Dakota Video/Audio KSNR Audio--No registration required Overall Record: 15-5 Last Action: 76-66 win over Palm Beach Atlantic South Dakota Website South Dakota Schedule South Dakota Stats South Dakota Audio--No registration required South Dakota Game Notes KEY PLAYERS -Tyler Cain: 6'8" Jr. Forward, 15 ppg, 11.2 rpg -Dylan Grimsley: 6'6" Sr. G/F, 13.2 ppg, 6 rpg -Jesse Becker: 5'11" Sr. Guard, 13.2 ppg, 3.3 apg -South Dakota has 5 players averaging double figures in scoring -USD's starting frontcourt stands 6'6", 6'8", and 6'11" respectively -The Coyotes have faced 4 established DI teams this season, picking up a win against University of New Orleans (7-9, 3-4 Sun Belt Conference) -South Dakota carries a 12 game win streak into this weekend's game -Tyler Cain leads the Great West in rebounding and is 7th in scoring -UND & USD have played 3 common opponents thus far: Southwest Minnesota (won by 4), Mayville (won by 36), Valley City (won by 27)

The show was definately better when Dubay was a part of it. I think listeners will really notice his absence now when the NFL season comes to a close, and we head into Twins talk.

82 North Dakota 59 Mayville St. Final Nice to see the team perform like they should be expected to against a DAC team. Should be a good experience going into South Dakota this weekend. UND took charge in the second half. As much as we talk about this teams struggles this season, the coaching staff really has seemed to make quality adjustments at halftime in the majority of the games that they have played this season.

Everyone on the active roster has scored tonight.

Sioux have actually had the full court press on fairly often tonight. Something I've always wondered why they don't do more of. I'd like to see more of it.

76 North Dakota 54 Mayville 4:15 2nd half

Bledsoe has 19

Sioux are shooting over 70% here in the 2nd half

69 North Dakota 49 Mayvillle 8:53 2nd half

60 North Dakota 49 Mayville St. 13:00 2nd half

Fun Fact: Mathison auditioned for Amercian Idol this summer.

Mike Mathison just nailed a 3!

Attendance: 826

North Dakota is just 2-8 on 3's. Joe Mauer's brother is one of the refs.

Jerome Beasley is in the house!

46 North Dakota 36 Mayville 17:39 2nd half

40 North Dakota 34 Mayville Halftime

18 North Dakota 14 Mayville 11:42 1st half

11 North Dakota 11 Mayville 13:41 first half

Hardee to Take Over UND Program

I'm no recruiting guru, and sorry if this has been mentioned in the past, but apparently Nate Wolters of St.Cloud has an offer from UND. Also has offers from USD and SDSU. Also, just an update on recruit Chris Clausen, he's averaging 14 points and 8 rebounds this season for North Iowa Community College.

Yes they are. I brought it up just to point out that as a fan, I can get excited when the hockey team beats a rather lack-luster opponent. I can also get excited when the basketball team beats a rather lack-luster opponent. It just frustrates me that some seem to feel the need to rip on the basketball team and coaching staff for not destroying any non-DI teams we play. I will definately concede that we should not struggle like we have against DAC schools. Their play in those games has been extremely frustrating. Of course I would like to see the team dominate Valley City or Minot, but the bottom line is the team is winning these non-DI games, albeit in ugly fashion. If the argument is UND is DI, so they should destroy Mary, I think alot of factors are being ignored. Like the fact that UND has been DI for about 3 months, not 60 years.

I'm excited because a win is a win. And it was an entertaining game. Sure, it was Mary, but it is not like UND has been a DI power that has fallen on hard times. We were in the same division as Mary last year. Right now we are a DI team with mostly DII players. Yet we've played well against a couple of DI opponents, and beaten every non-DI team except Southwest St., and they are a pretty quality team from maybe the best conference in DII. The same conference that Mary plays in. In reality, this team is right where I thought it would be at this point. And that is pretty good considering we lost our two best overall players from the last two seasons and our most effective post player. I admit I also get very frustrated by the Jeckyl & Hyde syndrome that seems to plague this team. Beat DI UMKC in the opener on the road, then lose at home to an NSIC. Then give high-major Texas A&M all that they want, but that performance is sandwiched between OT games with Minot and Mary. But really, why can't we get excited when the basketball team beats Mary? We get excited when the hockey team eeks past Bemidji in OT.

We've already heard this from a contributor to the board, but Wayne Nelson confirms that Northern Iowa will be in GF next year: Wayne also says that we're going to visit Texas A&M again next season. Tentatively. Anyone who visits the football forum knows to take that word with a grain of salt. So here is what we think we know: @ Montana tournament @ Drake Tournament @ Iowa State Tournament @ South Dakota @ Chicago State @ NJIT @ UT-Pan American @ Houston Baptist @ Utah Valley @ Texas A&M vs. South Dakota vs. Chicago State vs. NJIT vs. UT-Pan American vs. Houston Baptist vs. Utah Valley vs. Northern Iowa I would think that it is a good bet that Northern Colorado and UMKC will be in Grand Forks as well next year. I would also think that the Great West tournament will be set up similar to the old NCC tourney where the number 1 seed gets a bye, so there will be at least one playoff game. Or I suppose there could be a play-in game.