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In terms of recruiting a particular state....Im going to use gopherhole as reference to Minnesota recruits. Not sure if they are a reputable site or not. Minnesota has been predominantly UNDs biggest state for recruits. I will use the 2015,16,17 and next years 2018 classes In four years, of the possible top 40 (top 10 of each years class), UND has offered only 6 of those. Zero recruits. Of the #11-20 range , UND has offered 9....zero recruits. So they offered 15 of the possible top 80 players in four years and zero recruits All together they offered 47 of the top 200 (4years) and received 20 LOI. So 20 of the top 200 (10%) attended UND and 20 of 47 offers signed with UND. Of the signees ....only two( helgren, Ott) had multiple D1 offers and only three others had one D1 offer other then UNDs. They need to step it up in Minnesota. Time to think big time. They didn't even pursue Trey lance. A stud qb in your backyard and don't even make an attempt!?

Lol. Spicy today! I like it. I'll take a stab....his offers were rescinded ....UND ended up being his only offer? Am I right? Do tell.

No clue ...I'm asking.

huber should be a good one. Any idea why he backed out of his commitment with Iowa?

I'm not shocked ...upset. South Dakota has beaten out ndsu for recruits.. UND should be able to. No?

In bubbas time here, how many recruiting battles has he won to where the recruit had numerous offeres by fcs or fbs? I know Zeke was highly recruited and bruner this year. Griebel I believe. Cloyd ? Who else? As mentioned by a few posters ....the coaches have hit on some "hidden " gems but it seems a majority of the time they either lose out to competing schools or simply don't attempt to recruit highly sought after recruits. They need to change that culture and believe they can win these battles. Go after the tops dogs and reel them on a perennial basis. Two other regional teams are doing it. Time to beat out recruits against ndsu, sdsu, uni ...etc. Sick of that team to the south constantly beating UND for recruits. UND is a great academic school with great football tradition. It would be great to have 6-8 recruits sign with UND in feb when they beat out the likes of ndsu sdsu, Wyoming, bowling green, N ill. Does it mean that just because they are recruited by a numerous D1 schools that will turn into instant all Americans? No. Typically though ...they have the talent (speed an size) to at minimum be capable of being " next man up" if called upon. The other thing that winning battles against regional schools is that once recruits see other recruits choosing your school, it's almost like a monkey see monkey do motto. Create a recruit vacuum. UND won the big sky and was seeded in the playoffs two years ago. That coming after narrowly missing the playoffs the year before....UND should of/could of had their choice of some highly sought after recruits if winning is the culture they are looking for. UND was the new up and coming toy in the region. Recruits notice and it's the coaches duty to reel them in. Last year we will forget. But the two years before bubba had UND in winning mode. This is not a hate rant on the coaching staff as I think they definitely have recruited some real good talent but they do need to step it up with what we witnessed last year

Positives on today's signings: 1. Rain- massive! the gem of the class imo. Plays football the way it's supposed to be played.....aggressive 2. Siegel- looks legit and fluid. 3. Bruner- great get by the coaches ...has a nice twitch. 4. Kadon- I really like his film. Nice size. Negatives 1. No qb !? Outside of Brock, the coaches seem to not invest interest in the qb. This is the most important position in football ... they need to "up" their recruiting effort. 2. Would like to see a couple more OL and ILB. 3. Rudolph is still here

Frustrating to watch a conference foe get dismantled by a pioneer team. To potentially lose is one thing ( bad enough ) but to get blown out!?! Emberssing! It has become a perennial occurrence that Big sky teams end the season weak. Is that do to the physicality? 100% ! The playoffs expose the finesse nature of big sky teams. Big sky teams are weak in the trenches. This hits my nerve the most .....watching UND get dismantled or dominated by big sky teams this year and not being able to dominate. Fwiw ...UND only played one playoff big sky team this year. I have stated numerous times that offensively UND should absolutely dominate these weak crap year in and year out....pioneer teams dominate it...why can't UND!? As much as I can't stand the constant rah rah about the mvfc from the team to south ....UND is so not ready for weekly mvfc play.

As I mentioned....the talent of the backs were most likely the reason for those stats but to fault the line when they were set up to fail from the beginning is not right either. I also mentioned a couple posts back that they don't need four all Americans on the line to be successful in the big sky. The play calling absolutely hurt a subpar o line. When opposing Ds stack the box you can't expect 5 guys to block 9. They were definitely part of a big issue .....but the main issue was from higher up on the ladder

The three rbs had 271 carries 1602 yards for 5.9 ave. Is that decent or bad? With the opposing defenses lining up 9 in the box and knowing nearly every play I think that's not to bad. IMO, the pure talent from the rbs is perhaps the majority of the reason why they were able to get those yards. Does the line deserves a little bit of credit with a 5.9 rush ave though? The o line was not perfect but that's what an OC is for, recognize and adjust! Use screen passes, two step drop passes ,usage of the TEs when the line is struggling....instead Rudolph is comfortably content on sending the 175 lb Santiago up the middle. When the opposing D gets heavy push or sets up shop in your backfield....you design plays that counter that and work that angle until the defense adjusts accordingly. Then go back to your mo-jo. Rudolph has four plays! More like two but has occasionally used up to four in a single game. Literally ANYBODY could be an OC in this offense. Caveman mentality....give ball to back, back run up middle, back make yard, back mad!!! In regards to the OL, this staff has had four years to bring in the talent they feel necessary to implement their philosophy. The staff then starts what they feel is the best 5. If the 5 they start are not up to par ...its on the staff. They did the recruiting I agree that the line can take blame just like everyone else that has an association with this years program...but with a combination of playing in the big sky and play calling ....the offense should not be struggling they way they are even with a subpar line. This amateur play calling will get a heavy dose of reality when they enter mvfc play week in and week out.

My exact thoughts as well. There is a lot of posters here thinking that is was only this year that everyone is on he hate train for Rudolph. Not the case.....been three years plus. Or maybe its just me? I've felt Rudolph would be at his best calling out bingo numbers at a local dive bar or nursing home...a much better place for him. Bubba is definitely in the cross hairs now that he proudly announced everything is all good in his presser Santiago is so much better than 700 yards for the year. JJ is so much better than 250 yards for the year izzy is so much better than 95 yards rec on the year luke is so much better than 35 yards rec on the year Und plays in the d-less big sky for @&&! sake!!!! They don't need four all American OL to succeed in this conf! Outside of UNC, they were unable to score more then 3 tds offensively in any conference game ?????? 21 points is the best they could muster up????? Big sky! Bad defenses !! Santiago will have one more year of powering it up the gut.....wasted year and career ........frustrating!! His stats just get worse every year. I expect little from him next year with Rudolph coming back. MVCF teams will eat this offense up The offense has talent ...that's what makes it so frustrating! Used properly and they could excel Since no changes will be made .....they open next year on the road against Washington and San Houston......what's the best we can hope for??? ...winning the TOP !? Is that the coaches quota ?

2015: two massive losses with Grady and Merz !! The 2016 class, mainly do to attrition, has been the most impressive class of OL recruits. I was most excited with Bennett.....he has size and his hudl tape was very impressive. I know he was hobbling around most of his true fresh year with an injury ....not sure if that is still an issue or not. Tobin is the real deal but like most....needs to gain weight. Mortel and Nguon look solid as fresh. 2017: Kruse looks very capable of contributing from everything I have seen. Next years recruit , Slater , has potential to start as true fresh. Together as group ....the OL needs to work on the footwork, leverage aspect and leg strength. They were pushed back off the line way to much last year. The tackles biggest issues were hand use and footwork. They protect the edge so it's a little different in blocking style. There's definitely potential but need capable coaches to coach them up

This is complete bull$%!#!!! BUBBA RID OF THE #%^*%# LOYALTY!!! I have turned 180 degrees and now point the finger at bubba. He has spoken loudly.....being average is the best you UND fans should expect to see. This program will go nowhere with a kindergartner running the offense!! Poor Santiago has power his way up the middle for 1 yard gains for one more year. With this ridiculous announcement.....we can fully expect to see heidlebaugh starting next year. %#%*€#% I'm %#*^% pissed!!!

With out a doubt it is a possibility....loyalty prevails in his mind. Bubba has brought back hope to the program ( minus this year) but there are a ton of questions that remain with this team. If he feels like everything is ok and welcomes everyone back ....he then is solely blaming the injuries as the reason why this year is what it was....a dumpster fire. Injuries were definitely a catalyst to the problem ( some positions more then others), injuries or not, the offense year after year continues to struggle against the weak D big sky teams. As mentioned in many posts, the hard headed syndrome from the coaching as a whole is a problem.....never anything out of the ordinary just very conservative and predictable.....game after game after game. Take some chances and play to win!!! As of now, I feel bubba and Schmitty are safe .....however.... the ice is getting much thinner. Positional coaches are a 50/50 mix....some need to walk while others seem capable. My biggest issue and it has been for four years now ....Rudy. He needs to walk and today would be a great day. He has done ZERO since his arrival. He should get out of the football gig all together....he doesn't belong. Bubba needs to make this change along with a few positional changes. If he doesn't....I will question my support for him and the program.

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Kalk

So the concensus is that bubba should be gone? Or just some assistants? Or positional coaches? Or all of them? Or give it one more year?

Rudy went "all in" today !

The beauty of this offense........they make it look so easy.

Would love to see UND score 10 points against this vaunted D

To confusing for OC

Shhhhh...Rudy wants to keep that a secret.

For as long as Bubba is head coach , he will keep the same philosophy as a ball control run heavy offense ( which is what I prefer...just not this mess of one). There has to be a competent OC to run an offense ...UND currently doesnt have that. So in reality.....UND needs to reach out and find a candidate that is able to or has the capabilities to use the Santiagos/Keaton's of-the-world the correct way. You know.....the ability to run an offense in live game action...which is the reason why there is an OC position.

Not sure he's getting a free pass....been plenty that have called him out. I believe it's been stated numerous times that bubba has this extreme loyalty thing.....definitely can be a good thing bad thing. With Rudolph....definitely a horrible thing. Haven't cared for his "play" calling for 4 years. Bubba hires an OC and a DC....he then installs a philosophy or way he wants to play but it's up to those two to make the play by play calls and make corrective in-game decisions or adjustments. Ultimately, everything rests on bubbas shoulders when things are not working. Minus the !@#$ show this year....the last two years were a massive improvement over the muss years. For me....bubba currently gets a pass but will be skating on thin ice if there are no changes (Rudolph to start). I use the excuse....injuries. A lot of important players and a lot players in general are gone. Most "next man ups" are not instant all Americans like Cole, Deion and Donnell. With that being said....they haven't adjusted....frustrating! No way UND should be getting blown out the way they have! They could still be 3-7 this year..but they haven't even been competitive in most games. I'm calling this year an anomaly and looking for next year to be much much better . But I'm still calling for Rudolphs head.

Doesn't really matter who they have starting ...they have a perennial "system". They might only score 70 instead 80 now.