Bison Dan Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 They've already lost 3 girls that verbally committed to UND now onto BSU. Why would you recruit players that would go to BSU? Quote
star2city Posted November 15, 2007 Posted November 15, 2007 Volleyball picks up a Stroup from Fargo A 5-foot-10 middle hitter who was named East Region senior athlete of the year, Stroup verbally committed to play at the University of North Dakota. She ranks second on the South team in kills (246), blocks (71) and aces (64). Quote
star2city Posted November 15, 2007 Posted November 15, 2007 While UND's volleyball program looks to be struggling when its joins DI, NDSU has really turned around a rather disastrous W/L situation of two years ago when their coach resigned. With the recruits they have coming in, NDSU will have the potential to make some noise as a DI mid-major. Quote
Hammersmith Posted November 15, 2007 Posted November 15, 2007 While UND's volleyball program looks to be struggling when its joins DI, NDSU has really turned around a rather disastrous W/L situation of two years ago when their coach resigned. With the recruits they have coming in, NDSU will have the potential to make some noise as a DI mid-major. I'm kinda hoping we'll still make some noise this year by taking The Summit's autobid this weekend and winning a match or two in the NCAA tourney. I think it may have been brought up here already, but the three new members of The Summit are the #1(SDSU), #2(NDSU) & #3(IPFW) seeds in the conference tourney. Also, SDSU would've made the soccer tourney had they been eligible(NDSU would've just missed the cut). Moral of the story: transitional teams can do well in the non-revenue sports right out of the gate if they're properly supported. Now, our baseball program on the other hand... Other moral: Centenary sucks. (Conf - WSoc: 0-6-2; MSoc: 2-4; VB: 1-15) Quote
star2city Posted November 16, 2007 Posted November 16, 2007 I'm kinda hoping we'll still make some noise this year by taking The Summit's autobid this weekend and winning a match or two in the NCAA tourney. I think it may have been brought up here already, but the three new members of The Summit are the #1(SDSU), #2(NDSU) & #3(IPFW) seeds in the conference tourney. Also, SDSU would've made the soccer tourney had they been eligible(NDSU would've just missed the cut). Moral of the story: transitional teams can do well in the non-revenue sports right out of the gate if they're properly supported. Now, our baseball program on the other hand... Other moral: Centenary sucks. (Conf - WSoc: 0-6-2; MSoc: 2-4; VB: 1-15) The other moral: the Summit Conference sucks at volleyball. For the three "new" schools to become dominant powers gives one an idea of weak the Summit was. Whoever wins the tournament will likely be a 15th or 16th seed. Massey Ratings for volleyball (yeah, I know every detests Massey Ratings, but the BCS uses it) actually rates the NCC higher than the Summit. In fact, four NCC schools are ranked higher than NDSU: Team W L Rating (rank) Power (rank) MN Duluth 19 1 1.678 (50) 4.93 (61) Conc SP 19 2 1.392 (93) 4.13 (115) S Dak St 15 6 1.311 (117) 3.98 (126) MN Mank 15 3 1.267 (135) 3.86 (140) Augustana 15 6 1.229 (144) 3.65 (161) South Dak 17 4 1.178 (155) 3.50 (171) N Dak St 13 5 1.132 (169) 3.49 (172) Oral Rob 10 8 1.124 (174) 3.65 (160) IUPFW 11 8 1.107 (175) 3.40 (185) .... No Dak 5 13 0.402 (445) 1.52 (270) That being said, with NDSU's coach (who seems to be top-line coach) and recent recruiting classes (especially the Lopez sisters), NDSU has a chance to be a legitimate top 50-60 DI team, IMHO. OTOH, UND has got a whole lot of work to do. Quote
Hansel Posted November 16, 2007 Posted November 16, 2007 The other moral: the Summit Conference sucks at volleyball. For the three "new" schools to become dominant powers gives one an idea of weak the Summit was. Whoever wins the tournament will likely be a 15th or 16th seed. Massey Ratings for volleyball (yeah, I know every detests Massey Ratings, but the BCS uses it) actually rates the NCC higher than the Summit. In fact, four NCC schools are ranked higher than NDSU: Team W L Rating (rank) Power (rank) MN Duluth 19 1 1.678 (50) 4.93 (61) Conc SP 19 2 1.392 (93) 4.13 (115) S Dak St 15 6 1.311 (117) 3.98 (126) MN Mank 15 3 1.267 (135) 3.86 (140) Augustana 15 6 1.229 (144) 3.65 (161) South Dak 17 4 1.178 (155) 3.50 (171) N Dak St 13 5 1.132 (169) 3.49 (172) Oral Rob 10 8 1.124 (174) 3.65 (160) IUPFW 11 8 1.107 (175) 3.40 (185) .... No Dak 5 13 0.402 (445) 1.52 (270) That being said, with NDSU's coach (who seems to be top-line coach) and recent recruiting classes (especially the Lopez sisters), NDSU has a chance to be a legitimate top 50-60 DI team, IMHO. OTOH, UND has got a whole lot of work to do. Those rankings don't include games after October 8th, Lower division teams (especially undefeated) seem to do better early in the season in Massey Ratings than drop a bit Also VB seems to be a sport with very little interplay between division- even when NDSU was an Indie they were playing all DI teams, making interdivisional rankings almost useless Quote
star2city Posted November 16, 2007 Posted November 16, 2007 Those rankings don't include games after October 8th, Lower division teams (especially undefeated) seem to do better early in the season in Massey Ratings than drop a bit Also VB seems to be a sport with very little interplay between division- even when NDSU was an Indie they were playing all DI teams, making interdivisional rankings almost useless Volleyball is also a sport that in which West Coast teams (not only the WCC and Big West, but even DII and NAIA) generally are very strong relative to much weaker Northeastern DI leagues, much like most DII southern baseball leagues are stronger than mid-major northern DI baseball conferences. In other words, relative to basketball, the DI vs DII label has very high overlap. Quote
Hansel Posted November 16, 2007 Posted November 16, 2007 Volleyball is also a sport that in which West Coast teams (not only the WCC and Big West, but even DII and NAIA) generally are very strong relative to much weaker Northeastern DI leagues, much like most DII southern baseball leagues are stronger than mid-major northern DI baseball conferences. In other words, relative to basketball, the DI vs DII label has very high overlap. http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2007WVBrpi1.html quick look at the VB RPI shows that 200 VB teams played a grand total of 15 sub-DI games (and were 15-0) 200-250 were 2-2 against Sub DI 250-300 were 20-9 300-324 were 15-27 against sub DI tough to say how top DII teams would do against above average DI schools due to the lack of games, and the fact that the top 200 VB teams went 15-0 against sub DI NDSU and SDSU were the best of the NCC when they left, I doubt they would be middle of the pack NCC teams now Quote
star2city Posted November 17, 2007 Posted November 17, 2007 A former Sioux moving up the coaching ranks: Jamie Skadeland promoted to Colo Mines head volleyball coach Quote
The Walrus Posted December 2, 2007 Posted December 2, 2007 I wonder what this would feel like..... http://www.csp.edu/athletics/volleyball/ Never know now, since we are now a big time Div 1 program in transition..... Quote
dakotadan Posted December 2, 2007 Posted December 2, 2007 I wonder what this would feel like..... http://www.csp.edu/athletics/volleyball/ Never know now, since we are now a big time Div 1 program in transition..... At this point I think I would be happy with a winning seasons! Quote
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