star2city Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 UND vs Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 10 North Dakota 19 Wisconsin 10:28 1st half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Gametracker Sioux with 10 turnovers already 11 North Dakota 23 Wisconsin 8:00 1st half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 23 UND 38 WI half Sioux shooting 29%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 23 North Dakota 38 Wisconsin Half -North Dakota shooting 29%, Wisco 45% -ND 3-7 on 3 pointers -Sioux just 6-12 from the FT line -16 turnovers for ND, 10 for Wisco -Sioux out-rebounded 20-18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Our freethrow shooting is terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 30 North Dakota 53 Wisconsin 9:52 2nd Half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Wisco is only shooting 38%. If we could be shooting better than 28% and not have 23 turnovers through the first 30 minutes of the game, it would be alot closer. The Badgers have played few players that are under 6' tall. Would have been nice to have had Sharkova for defensive purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 43 North Dakota 68 Wisconsin Final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Sioux ended up just shooting just 26% from the field, 43% from the charity stripe, and had 26 turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 UND's post players shot a combined 3 of 19 from the floor. But on the bright side, the bench scoring tripled compared to the Green Bay game--from two points to six points! Also, the theory that we only struggle against teams from the state of Wisconsin has yet to be disproved. And there are no more Wisconsin teams on the schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach daddy Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 UND's post players shot a combined 3 of 19 from the floor. But on the bright side, the bench scoring tripled compared to the Green Bay game--from two points to six points! Also, the theory that we only struggle against teams from the state of Wisconsin has yet to be disproved. And there are no more Wisconsin teams on the schedule. You are an optimistic soul, I'll give you that. Coach has said all preseason that this team will live or die with its perimeter scoring. As a person who coached for over 20 years at a variety of levels I'd like to say that any year I tried to live with perimeter options first, we struggled more nights than I'd care to remember. The ability to score inside first is fundamental to successful teams (Do the names Crouse, Kleinsasser, Kimbrough, and Langen ring bells with anyone here). If we can't score inside at the DI level, we'll lose. End of story. It doesn't even matter how long they've been in the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 You are an optimistic soul, I'll give you that. Coach has said all preseason that this team will live or die with its perimeter scoring. As a person who coached for over 20 years at a variety of levels I'd like to say that any year I tried to live with perimeter options first, we struggled more nights than I'd care to remember. The ability to score inside first is fundamental to successful teams (Do the names Crouse, Kleinsasser, Kimbrough, and Langen ring bells with anyone here). If we can't score inside at the DI level, we'll lose. End of story. It doesn't even matter how long they've been in the program. We're unfortunately in the midst of a rather prolonged dry spell in terms of recruiting a post who can score. I'm sure it's not for lack of trying, but it's now been what, five years since Kimbrough was recruited? I know players like that aren't in abundance, but at a minimum we need somebody who can score 12-15 ppg from the post position. There's nobody like that in the program now. Until we find one, I'm afraid we'll struggle just like we have so far this season (even in the exhibition against UMC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star2city Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 We're unfortunately in the midst of a rather prolonged dry spell in terms of recruiting a post who can score. I'm sure it's not for lack of trying, but it's now been what, five years since Kimbrough was recruited? I know players like that aren't in abundance, but at a minimum we need somebody who can score 12-15 ppg from the post position. There's nobody like that in the program now. Until we find one, I'm afraid we'll struggle just like we have so far this season (even in the exhibition against UMC). While we have won almost every recent recruiting battle with NDSU, we've haven't been targeting any recruits that high majors have also been after. To be successful, we have to have those type players. Women's basketball is so much easier to recruit because even many of the major conferences don't attract major crowds (except the Tennessees, and UCONNs), TV audiences, and the post-college professional world does not offer huge $ contracts. UND should be second after UMinn for any recruit in Minnesota. That just doesn't seem to be happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach daddy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 While we have won almost every recent recruiting battle with NDSU, we've haven't been targeting any recruits that high majors have also been after. To be successful, we have to have those type players. Women's basketball is so much easier to recruit because even many of the major conferences don't attract mahir crowds (except the Tennessees, and UCONNs), TV audiences, and the post-college professional world does not offer huge $ contracts. UND should be second after UMinn for any recruit in Minnesota. That just doesn't seem to be happening. Maybe not second to U of Minn. because a lot of major schools, Big 10 especially, get into Minnesota and recruit hard. Iowa and Iowa St. come to mind immediately. I do agree though that we need to be much more aggressive in attempting to lure kids from major schools and least get them to visit campus. This roster is no different than it was when we played in the NCC; that's not going to cut it anymore. All the coaches need to get out and find players from Wisc., Iowa, Minn, and perhaps So. Dak. too. I know SDSU probably has first pick on SD kids but we have way more to offer in terms of academics than SDSU does. Too early to call it lazy coaching but come March, we'll see. Is Privatsky planning on redshirting this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the green team Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I guess my question is... which team will be the first to collect a regular season win? The men or the women? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I guess my question is... which team will be the first to collect a regular season win? The men or the women? I think the men have a better chance, with home games against UMKC and Waldorf coming up. I don't really expect the women to win until the Mayville State game on Dec. 7th, although if they have a hot-shooting game it could come earlier than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachdags Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 You are an optimistic soul, I'll give you that. Coach has said all preseason that this team will live or die with its perimeter scoring. As a person who coached for over 20 years at a variety of levels I'd like to say that any year I tried to live with perimeter options first, we struggled more nights than I'd care to remember. The ability to score inside first is fundamental to successful teams (Do the names Crouse, Kleinsasser, Kimbrough, and Langen ring bells with anyone here). If we can't score inside at the DI level, we'll lose. End of story. It doesn't even matter how long they've been in the program. We're unfortunately in the midst of a rather prolonged dry spell in terms of recruiting a post who can score. I'm sure it's not for lack of trying, but it's now been what, five years since Kimbrough was recruited? I know players like that aren't in abundance, but at a minimum we need somebody who can score 12-15 ppg from the post position. There's nobody like that in the program now. Until we find one, I'm afraid we'll struggle just like we have so far this season (even in the exhibition against UMC). Great Minds think alike......Good Posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger1 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Great Minds think alike......Good Posts how bout dem badgers. sounds like UND needs some time in the gym shooting FT's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach daddy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 how bout dem badgers. sounds like UND needs some time in the gym shooting FT's This is a person who lives alone!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND Ball Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 This is a person who lives alone!!! If I remember, there is a 6'5" post on the bench that would change the entire scope of things - the first player off the bench that would provide an immediate impact. I heard that a couple of hours before the first game coaches were told from the Compliance Department she couldn't play. If that is true, how disheartening to the team, coaches, and most of all the player - is the compliance staff accountable to anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 ... is the compliance staff accountable to anyone? The AD, ... and the NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 If I remember, there is a 6'5" post on the bench that would change the entire scope of things - the first player off the bench that would provide an immediate impact. I heard that a couple of hours before the first game coaches were told from the Compliance Department she couldn't play. If that is true, how disheartening to the team, coaches, and most of all the player - is the compliance staff accountable to anyone? Those are the people that keep the school from getting into trouble with the NCAA for using ineligible players, and the penalties that come with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 As someone who vividly recalls the Myron Allen fiasco of several years ago, I appreciate showing caution when in doubt about a player's eligibility. With that said, considering we're now nearly three months into the semester, it would seem that this matter should have been taken care of by now--either Sharkova's eligible or she's not. I can see this being an issue with fall sports since they start practice in early August before school has even started, but winter sports that don't even start practice until mid-October? I'm not saying anybody necessarily dropped the ball--it just seems strange since I don't recall a basketball player ever being held out due to eligibility concerns (other than Allen, after he'd played several games ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 As someone who vividly recalls the Myron Allen fiasco of several years ago, I appreciate showing caution when in doubt about a player's eligibility. With that said, considering we're now nearly three months into the semester, it would seem that this matter should have been taken care of by now--either Sharkova's eligible or she's not. I can see this being an issue with fall sports since they start practice in early August before school has even started, but winter sports that don't even start practice until mid-October? I'm not saying anybody necessarily dropped the ball--it just seems strange since I don't recall a basketball player ever being held out due to eligibility concerns (other than Allen, after he'd played several games). The NCAA has a clearinghouse for eligibility and every player has to be cleared through them. I read earlier this fall that they had a huge backlog, it sounded like it was much bigger than normal. I know that a lot of college football players around the country were not cleared to play until after practice started, they are usually pretty much done with fall sports before camps open up. That, plus the fact that Sharkova is from overseas which can make getting records more difficult, may have contributed to the problem. It is always better to be safe than sorry in these cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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