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    Make Your Case For The Vote

    in UND Nickname

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    logos for each

    roughriders-teddy roosevelt or a man/woman on a horse

    nodaks-john wayne bobbit

    sundogs-rainbows everywhere..everywhere. so many that tom dennis sobs everytime he see that beautiful logo

    north stars-a star

    fighting hawks-a hawk

    pretty easy choice for  me

    I figured the logo for Roughriders would either be a condom, a cowboy from New Mexico, an exact replica of the Grand Forks high school logo, or a woman with a front butt wearing "Ridas" mom jeans manufactured by Lee.  

    Decisions, decisions....

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    For a real naming controversy look into what the Province of Quebec is faced with having something like 8 locales that contain the "N" word in their names.  N Rock and N Falls are two I remember.  It seems that all of these place names were given as  memorials to runaway slaves and there is a real opposition to attempts by the Quebec parliament to change them.  Part of the population does not want to lose the historic connection that preserving these names ensures.  Calhoun, Fighting Sioux, and __.  It is amazing what can happen when context is ignored and decisions are made based on what is on the surface.

    it's certainly not a cut and dried, black and white issue. 

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    the part that is making so damn mad with brad is that he just assuming or making stuff up (to appease Tom?)...where has it said anywhere that Teddy will be associated the RR nickname if it wins.  no where brad.

    couldn't you make the same assumption if you wanted to with the nodaks?  Teddy as your logo

    plus show me any protests surrounding RRHS use of the RR nickname anywhere/anytime in the last 50 years

    maybe they're assuming because of the bajillion posts on siouxsports.com, where peeps are pumping up teddy as the reason to go with roughriders?  (or maybe they've just looked at your avatar)

    :)

     

    ISU Predictions

    in Football

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    UND   34

    ISU     24

    Same story offensively as last week, except we end a few more drives with touchdowns, and zero balls thrown into quintuple coverage.

    Defense lets a few big pass plays get by them.    Besides a kick in the head, what did I win for picking the closest to correct score last week?        

    Make Your Case For The Vote

    in UND Nickname

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    It is totally insipid - we are asking our warriors to go to battle for UND and the beauty of the sky on a cold winter day.  I don't give a damn what Shakespeare had to say about sundogs it doesn't come close to Jon Casey spraying the front of his jersey with a water bottle and explaining that the warrior was fighting just as hard as anyone and needed a drink of water too.  That is what a nickname and logo should inspire - not a desire to stand in admiration of the beauty of an ice rainbow.

    I think you're totally underestimating Sparkle Power!   Let's all get behind Sundogs.  gfhockey and I will volunteer to be the two sundog mascots, each of us wearing rainbow colored bodysuits. 

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    I attach Teddy to Rough Riders because it's part of the name's appeal to me. I understand some are leaning towards the more ambiguous someone who breaks horses definition.I prefer the military history. 

    I believe Roosevelt to have a more deep and meaningful connection to the state than some, notably Siouxphan27. I believe this to be philosophical, as we are discussing things that happened back in 1883 (Teddy's first time, a buffalo hunt,in North Dakota, which happens to coincide with the University's inception). I don't think Roosevelt would have possessed the skills necessary to be a successful commander in Cuba without his time in North Dakota, in fact, I would be highly critical of suggestion otherwise. North Dakota transformed him from a "young dude" to the barrel chested bastion of manliness many associate him with today. I don't think without the skills acquired in the badlands he would have or could have swayed McKinley to allow him to raise the regiment.

    In addition to Roosevelt, there are others in the unit who spent time in North Dakota, notably Jesse Langdon. North Dakota was 9 years old as a state in 1898. Of course there wasn't going to be a ton of native North Dakotans in the unit. There weren't many to begin at all (the vast majority we can't use as a nickname). Some of the Roughriders Roosevelt had met ranching or hunting Dakota, while they never had a residence there. Siouxphan is correct in mentioning it was largely Southwesterners, as was McKinley's mandate was something like 2/3rds or 3/4th's of the volunteers were to be from the Southwestern territories.

    To wax philosophic for a second here, as well, though I wish there was more representation from North Dakota for nickname purposes, I think there can be positive parallels drawn from the diversity of the group. Look at our recruiting maps (hockey's is somewhat of an exception lately). Look at how many different areas are colored in. The Roughriders had cow punchers and sheriffs from the untamed West; it had aristocratic born Ivy league-rs and athletes; it had Native Americans. It did a lot its fighting with the  10th Cavalry, an African American unit (Buffalo soldiers). It was diverse group coming to together to fight underneath one flag (largely the same as the state of North Dakota's) to push American to the forefront of the global community.  It is a hell of an example for our teams to follow, in my opinion.

    The Roughriders weren't around long, no, and Theodore Roosevelt wasn't around very long in North Dakota either. That time spent, however short, had deep, meaningful impacts. A lot of the friends, and student athletes I met at UND, weren't in the state for any longer than their 4/5 years required, but the vast majority of them became better men and women for their time here. The imprint left on them, doesn't fade away, as it didn't for a 28 year old (ish) Roosevelt when he moved back to his original home. Many of the great things he did, are a direct result of abilities learned or honed in North Dakota. That might not be a bad aim for a university there in and of itself.

    nice post Eric.  I don't dispute any of the connections Roosevelt had to North Dakota.  That isn't and never has been my point.   None of his time spent in the state changes the fact his Roughriders were never here.  The muster in and muster out rolls I've seen show Jesse Langdon as the only one calling north Dakota home.   He was the son of the head Vet at NDSU.   What a great connection, eh?   I was hoping there would be a nickname choice that we didn't have to "wax philosophical" over to make the connection to our state.    I've seen people post in recent days (not you) about how their ancestors were "roughriders".   that just makes me laugh.  They were homesteaders, pioneers, settlers yes, but roughriders, no. 

    When you mention the flags; nearly every battalion fought under the Great Seal of the United States, so they had similar flags.  Later, North Dakota decided to copy the Seal with a few minor changes as its state flag.

    I respect the opinion of everyone who likes the name roughriders.  it just so happens your opinions are wrong.  :D:D   carry on!

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    I guess I have no problem with taking the name Rough Riders when North Dakota is the reason that name is even a part of history. 

    that's fine.  You're entitled.   My opinion is the committee blew it, and we're left grasping at straws to make connections between these name choices and our university.

    Make Your Case For The Vote

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    I don't believe i'm on record supporting Abe Vigoda as the new UND Nickname.   I believe I put that on here during a discussion awhile back about the name North Dakota Nokotas with Abe Vigoda as part of the mascot.  Catchy.    But, if Abe led a bunch of badass cowboys from New Mexico into war in Cuba that i'm unaware of, I guess he would qualify as a nickname choice.

    as I've said several times, if everyone is in love with Teddy Roosevelt to the point we would rather honor him than honor something homegrown about our state, then choose a nickname that links teddy to north Dakota.  

    to me, the name roughriders screams of the old north Dakota nice attitude.   UND roughriders motto:  "We're too shy/modest to pump up our own heritage, so we stole yours instead.  Bully!"   Or, my second motto choice:  There's an award. 

    so there you have it, Casper. 

     

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    Why does Roughriders have to be tied to TR?  

    I have no idea.  That's more of a question for the roughrider supporters who insist on revisionist history of the state of north Dakota, and attempt to include teddy roosevelt's roughriders as part of our heritage.

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    I just watched a PBS special titled: "Theodore Roosevelt: A Cowboy's Ride to the White House," and how much he really loved North Dakota.

    His love of the outdoors, how after his mom and wife died on the same day, he returned to North Dakota to find solitude.

    How his speech in Dickinson preludes his presidential speak.
     

    How Teddy Roosevelt wanted UND to be the RoughRiders as just before he died he was asked, how he wanted to be remembered:

    "A man of the West, A man of the Dakotas."

     

    Lol lol lol.  Yes, and you forgot the part about as he lay dying, his last words were. "In 2015 when the nickname vote occurs at UND because our country has been overrun by political correctness, be sure to vote for roughriders even though they were a group of men from the desert southwest and had nothing to do with North Dakota."

    -and then he breathed his last...

    well done Cratter, well done.  Lol

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    2015 season

    in Football

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    I couldn't have been more pumped up  listening to the game,  how UND gutted out this win despite injuries, big mistakes, missed opportunities, and gifts given to Portland State.

    I get a chance to read these comments with the bickering and it's sort of depressing....  in the immortal words of Mike Tice...  "calm down, calm down" .... and, "enjoy the season!"

    After hearing about how great Portland State was against the run, I was shocked with how well we moved the ball.   And the defense played spectacularly with the exception of the first play from scrimmage. 

    This team is young and improving.   Some of the mistakes made Saturday are, in the words of Christian Ponder, "easily correctable."   (last Viking reference I promise)

    hopefully the banged up can get back to full health quickly, and if so, the Sky's the limit for this group.

    4-1 baby!!!!!!!     see you on Saturday!!!!

     

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    You Can't Make This Up

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    I am not so sure. It sounds like a guy that might be in the early stages of dementia. This doesn't make sense. 

    this is exactly what I was going to post until I read all the other replies and saw you had already said it. 

    does this guy have any family around looking after him?    his bizarre antics definitely sound like dementia to me.  or maybe it's just the ndsu degree talking.

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