JohnboyND7

This guy was not the sex offender. This guy was the normal violent felon I believe.

Some journos on twitter have it broken down alright. Looks like he isnt the one shooting but tough to say for sure. There is a person on a sidewalk nearby who shoots at least once. I have a suspicion the kid is going to end up in the clear here for any of the shooting. There is a bit of video of the first altercation. You can see a guy charging him (allegedly after throwing a molotov or some sort of flaming object at the kid but I only saw a pic of that, not a video) and the kid shoots him. He then gets chased away. I dont see any of the shots UNDlaw says occurred, but maybe I'm missing something. Then he falls and they are on him, and he shoots.

Jacob Black was given plenty of opportunities to not get shot. He's an idiot, it's too bad he's paralyzed now though.

Define immediate. How far is the right distance? As an aside, sounds like the first guy he shot was a sex offender, so potential silver lining there.

So... the knife was in the place he appeared to be going to? More will come out there as to what happened as well. Judging from the video, there is not much of a chance the police knew who had been shooting. Looked like the whole area was a bit chaotic. Plus it's night time. Tough to say he murdered two people when we don't know much about what happened with the first guy who got shot. Again, I expect more will come out there that clarifies what happened. If that was a self-defense killing, I would think the second one certainly was as well. You are not under an obligation to let a mob of people beat you to death. The third guy had a gun. At that point there was no way the kid wasn't gonna shoot him too. Seems like a reasonable fear under the circumstances. I'm not aware of Illinois having any requirements to owning an AR-15, the little research I did do says cities might have rules, idk where the kid is from though. If there is a permit required, I'd guess his dad would be the one to have it? Not familiar with gun permits, I lost all my guns in a fishing accident.... or I dont have any. Depends who is asking.

The convention has been pretty good. Polls are tightening up in the battlegrounds....

We'll see. More stuff tends to come out. They do have the guy on video using racial slurs towards black militia to shoot him. Some time later, he gets shot. Reminds me of this classic. I have very limited sympathy for any of the rioters. The further they get from cities the more likely it is that people will be armed and bad things will happen, legal or illegal.

Being charged with murder won't go anywhere if he has a valid claim for self-defense. I don't know enough about the specifics of what happened to have much to say about that. We will see what happens there. In most of America, people are smart enough to not break into private communities. Protesting is fine and dandy (i generally find it stupid regardless of who does it) but stay in your lane and you probably won't have guns drawn on you. These protesters care an awful lot about their rights without recognizing anyone else's.

I dont know if they saved the community from being looted or burned down. But they almost certainly had a reasonable fear that might occur.

Have you read up on the prosecutor? She knew she wasn't going to get a conviction here. This was 100% to get her name out there and cause a stir. Maybe appease the mob by showing them "well we tried to get them but we live in a backwoods redneck state!" No jury of their peers was going to convict them of anything. Regardless, it likely doesn't matter that they pay private security. Without looking into it, it sounds like they own that private area along with the other residents. You don't forfeit your right to defend yourself or your property because you take other precautions to guard the area as well. Bison06 is probably right that you are likely conflating what you would do or even what the "right" thing to do might be with what the law of Missouri probably is.

so...it may be safe to say there is a substantial likelihood that these folks, as owners of the gated community, have a right to prevent trespass?

Who owns the gated community?

And chicken and cow claim dolphin and whale dropped the bomb on japan

Well thats racist. Am i doing this right?

Lmao RNC owns. Libs are Big Mad on social media.

kamala harris said only a few months ago that she believed the women accusing Joe Biden of sexual assault. That's significantly more screwed up than removing a speaker for being a conspiracy theorist.

It certainly couldn't have been any worse lol

Methinks you are stuck in some time long ago. What do you mean family life? Like Divorce would suddenly be illegal? Lol. Sexual relations? Sodomy laws have been gone from most states for ages. Republican and Democrat since before the Supreme Court declared the laws unconstitutional. Regarding drugs, Republicans and Democrats have been pretty well in step. Democrats just like pretend to be the Cool Mom from Mean Girls. I presume you mean Abortion when you say "Right to Choose." Yep. Killing the most innocent among us is disgusting. School prayer...I dont know and don't care. I intend on sending any kids I ever have to private school anyway. Sex Ed is a state and local issue I'm pretty sure. I dont think the Feds handle that. North Dakota is pretty conservative. We got the whole shebang in a state where the Conservative boogeymen have free reign to institute the Abstinence only program I think you are hinting at and havent done it...at least they hadn't 10-15 years ago when I was in middle-high school. Protests...i have no idea. Republican and Democrat politicians both hate protests when they are carried out by members of the other party. Believe it or not, conservatives change views over time too. I am pretty sure you are living in some weird time in the past. Views change over time.

Watched some of the convention tonight. Cuban immigrant old guy owned. Parnell owned. Haley owned. Scott owned. Parkland Dad did well. Guilfoyle or however you spell it sucked.

I'm curious what the plethora of social restrictions are. The only one I can think of relates to abortion. I would typically think of gay marriage and what not but the GOP has eased up on that front considerably.

The fact checkers are pretty bad. For it being a pretty easy job they tend to give all inferences (reasonable and unreasonable) towards people on one side if the aisle while not extending the same courtesy to the others.

Harris did, provided that this bill was to prevent that specific scenario from playing out. https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=2&vote=00058

Barack asked Putin to keep things calm until he was reelected. Check Barack attempted to prosecute journalists. Check. Barack attempted to delegitimize unfriendly press. Check. Barack's IRS targeted conservative groups. Check. We were there and you were probably silent.

I'm thinking you don't know what a fascist is.

Had Barack Obama run for office in 2020 on his 2008 platform he'd have been called every name in the book, by his own party. Bigot, homophobe, God knows what else. Probably Uncle Tom? Bernie is much further left on pretty much every matter than Don is to the right. Don's 2016 platform...kinda hard to label necessarily on a right-left scale. He's generally all over the place (for better or for worse).