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  1. At least the motives of those that want to go without a new nickname are obvoius, understandable, logical and fair.

    Conversely, the motive for forcing thousands upon thousands of good, god loving, productive members of society to have to live with this lunacy that was in the beginning justified in the name of protecting a group of offended people only to be exposed as actually without a bit of consideration or respect for those very people to the extreme point of getting sued by the group of said victims in an attempt to restrain said lunancy from being imposed on said group.

    Now there in lies the obvious target of any and all worthy conversations of vague, confused, hidden or ulterior motives.

    That right there is funny!

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  2.   So it sounds like you are part of the group I was talking about that doesn't want a new nickname because you want to keep using the old one, even though it would be as the unofficial nickname with North Dakota being the "official nickname". 

    No, I just finished explaining that I don't want a new identity imposed on UND which is not the same as saying I want to keep using the Sioux moniker. I thought it was a straightforward statement that did not require anyone coming along and telling me what I meant.

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  3.  The obvious reason that people don't want a new nickname chosen is so they can continue to use the old one.  No one is fooled by people wanting to just be North Dakota.

    Actually no, that reason is not obvious at all. I don't know of anyone who thinks that officially sanctioned, continued use of "Fighting Sioux" will ever be an option if a new name is not chosen. And fans will continue to wear their old Sioux jerseys long after a new name is chosen. Personally, I prefer not choosing a new name at all (or going with G and W) in the interest of not having to assume any more of a new identity than necessary, and I suspect many have that favor no name do so for the same reason.

  4. Give me an example a College or University that supports athletics that does not have a nickname.  

    I don't know of any....if you go back and read through the thread my primary point is that if choosing one is indeed mandatory, then "Green and White" is a choice that would not necessitate a change in identity. My secondary point is that if fans are "rallying" around the no name hockey team, then they will rally around a team named after its colors. I happen to think that going without a name would be a viable option if permitted by the NCAA and make UND unique in contrast to your opinion that it is "DUMB". We will have to just disagree and leave it at that because getting into a pissing contest over whether going nameless is "DUMB" would be...err...DUMB.

  5. This isn't about attendance at hockey, football or anything else.  This is about having an identity and a marketable name and logo.  The milktoast GW crap they are trying to sell now isn't going to catch on ever.

    OK boss...but someone else other than me a little ways up the thread says we need something to rally around. Our current absence of a name is not hurting attendance at the REA for men's hockey. I trust I will be corrected if filling up the arena does not equal rallying around the team.

  6. OK, I grew up in ND and went to UND as did my parents and grandparents. UND is in my DNA and I am a lifelong Sioux fan (or green and white, whatever), but I live in Vermillion. Coach Glenn walked by my house Sunday morning with some kids which I presume were his grandchildren. He and his smiling face were the picture of happiness and serenity. They stopped for a few minutes to be friendly and pet my dog. Nice man, I’d have to say.

     

    Now as a bit of an aside. Every once in a while I hear snide remarks about Vermillion such as within this thread where it’s been referred to as a dump.  Next time you are here you might go canoeing on the Missouri R. National waterway, take in the National Music Museum, or visit the Yankton reservoir on the Missouri River which beats Garrison hands down for scenery. The snow in winter is white unlike the snirt in Grand Forks, and when Arctic cold fronts plunge Grand Forks to 25 below its typically 30 degrees warmer here. FWIW.

  7. and if he goes and throws 4 picks then people will crow why did you start Bartles!

     

    Its damned if you do and damned if you don't.

    I have not yet seen Bartles throw a sideline pass into quadruple coverage for a pick 6 interception. The same cannot be said for Mole.

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  8. Remember with our offense this year we don't have much margin for error.  Just one fumble, interception, penalty or bad snap could cost a score and possibly the margin for victory.  3 road games left and 2 home games.  All are possible wins with our defense.  One at a time and remain hungry.  Just get our first road win.

    I agree, and this is a good reason to start Bartles, not that that is gonna happen.

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  9. I lean towards giving starting Bartles but I am not on the coaching staff and I don't oversee practices. It sounds to me like the coaching staff sees Mollberg as having the greater upside even though Bartles is producing the best result at this point in time. My concern is that Bartles transfers out to somewhere where he can be the starter and it then takes Mollberg's junior and senior year for the staff to realize he never will realize his "upside".

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  10. The good news is that the QB position no longer seems to be a liabilty. The "bad news" is that neither has separated himself from the other. Start whomever seems to have the hot hand in practice, and tell him not to be butt-hurt if the other is called on to come in in relief. IMO, Bartles has earned the start, but I too don't think the coaching staff will say there is a clear cut case for changing starters.

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