I am not going to spend any more time on this stupid topic. This is a message board. Sorry I don't see it your way but since your such an expert I will let you feel good about your self. ND is a CCHA team, we all know how well their league has done in the NCAA the last few years. MIAMI comes to mind great numbers, great goalie highly over rated. The same with MSU last season. The fact remains the WCHA is the top league until another league proves other wise. We can split hairs and argue all we want, I am not changing my mind. Until ND makes the Frozen Four all they will be is an up start nice story in my opinion.